LED blinker module suggestions

[Pstyckiewicz]

So I have done some reading and can’t seem to settle on what led module to get. I have led front marker lights and some civilian style rear lights. The rears have regular incandescent bulbs right now. I also have the led bulb in turning handle. This gets the tears only to blink. Tried a bunch of combinations of led’s and regular bulbs but I can’t get them all running.

I believe I have the Nartron 11613631

I also was thinking of making my own.

Any help would be great.

 

[FlameRed]

I used this one and it works with a complete LED conversion: 11613631 Turn Signal Flasher Switch 24 Volt Military M151 M38 M35 11613631 I had it installed for more than a year - no issues so far.

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

Perfect, I’ll give it a try.

 

[Valley Rock]

I picked up one from federal military parts for a couple bucks cheaper .

 

[Atchuuu]

Perfect, I’ll give it a try.

Did it work? Doesn’t look like that module is the LED version.

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

It didn’t work. I’m going to try a couple thing with it before i say it doesn’t work.

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

If I can’t get it to work I’ll be making my own. Haha

M-series flasher relay - civvy conversion how-to

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[Pstyckiewicz]

Welp it didn’t work. So I bought a Grote 44850 flasher thing and I can’t get that to work either. Hooked it up to the A and B on cannon plug. With that I only get steady light on, on the blinker handle, and no blinking at all.

The 44850 is supposed to be for led.

Any suggestions?

Maybe wrong/diffrent flasher?

 

[Atchuuu]

I was thinking the original flasher on my truck would have to be replaced or I would have to go aftermarket. However, after connecting everything, I found that the blinkers work just fine with my LED kit. Waiting on a bulb for the indicator light but without a light n the socket they work fine. With an old bulb they work fine.

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

44850 - 2 Pin Flashers, 12 Light Electromechanical, 24V

Grote Industries - Part: #44850 - 2 Pin Flashers, 12 Light Electromechanical, 24V. Bulk Pack

www.grote.com

 

[Mogman]

Welp it didn’t work. So I bought a Grote 44850 flasher thing and I can’t get that to work either. Hooked it up to the A and B on cannon plug. With that I only get steady light on, on the blinker handle, and no blinking at all.

The 44850 is supposed to be for led.

Any suggestions?

Maybe wrong/diffrent flasher?

I was always thinking I would try one of the three terminal flashers where one was ground, but that one should work, curious if you leave the flasher unplugged do the lamps lite when you switch the turn signal on right or left?
Also you hooked X to 325B (terminal B) and the load to 325A (terminal A) yes?
EDIT, the next thing I would try is plugging in a couple incandescent lamps if you were simply converting the original lights.

 

[Mogman]

To farther explain, the reason I would use a three terminal flasher where one lead was ground is because they do not depend on the load at all to operate, they get power on X and the circuit is powered through the ground (usually pin E) independently of the load.
I will post an example
Here is one.
On these they are marked E for ground B for battery (input voltage) and L for load.

LED Flasher Non-Polarity 12V 24V Universal Normally Open Flash Relay CF15 JL-02 | eBay

Feature: 1. The flasher can be connect to LED lights, decode fast flashing, burst flashing with good performance. Item Type: LED Flasher. Can be connected to LED lights, decode fast flashing. 12VDC 24VDC is universal, regardless of whether it is 12V or 24VDC, it can be used directly.

www.ebay.com

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

I will try to see what I get when I unplug everything. I will see if I can pick up a flasher with a ground on it.

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

Ok so I tried unplugging the flasher and it did do anything as expected. What I did notice, stupid me is the new flasher 11613631 does work if I don’t have my headlights/night time running rear lights on.,which is weird. So what I have now working front and rear turn signals also brake lights. LED lights all around except rear stop/blinker bulbs. I tried led rear light bulbs but couldn’t get them to flash or get brighter when braking.

Any suggestions on the headlight/running night time light issue effecting my blinkers? Haha

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

Also I the rear blackout wiring I just capped off to run civilian style rear lights. Not sure if that effects anything?

 

[Mogman]

Ok so I tried unplugging the flasher and it did do anything as expected. What I did notice, stupid me is the new flasher 11613631 does work if I don’t have my headlights/night time running rear lights on.,which is weird. So what I have now working front and rear turn signals also brake lights. LED lights all around except rear stop/blinker bulbs. I tried led rear light bulbs but couldn’t get them to flash or get brighter when braking.

Any suggestions on the headlight/running night time light issue effecting my blinkers? Haha

Are you doing this with the engine not running, if so try it with the engine running and the alt charging.
You may also have a grounding issue with the rear lights, pull the lens and see if the running light filament tries to glow/light when the turn signal is flashing

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

I’ve tried it on and off.
So with the truck on:
-headlights (led) and tail lights (incandescent) on.
——-rear lights blink and get brighter with brake applied. Front turn signals don’t work. But they are on.
-headlights (led) and tail lights (led) on.
——-led rear light bulbs in I don’t get blink or get brighter when brake. Just steady light on. Also the front blinkers don’t blink. They are just on.

I also tried changing out the bulb in the blinker handle with the led and incandescent.

It seems that the led headlights when (ON) affect the front turn signals somehow. I’m not sure if there is an issue with the light selector not computing what is going on or is it the blinker handle somehow not working right when headlights are on.

haha thanks in advance for helping me on this one.

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

Anyone put resistors on there wires? If so what kind and where it implement them.

 

[FlameRed]

Anyone put resistors on there wires? If so what kind and where it implement them.

No

Maybe temporarily put back the incandescent original bulbs and see if you can isolate the issue? And if the incandescent bulbs make it all work, replace them one-by-one with your LED until they don't function?

 

[Pstyckiewicz]

I would do that but I got ride of them already.