Legal Issues that could effect all MV Owners

[zout]

Cannot let much out of the bag so to speak - I do know "someone" had been viewing this and knew about it - so I am not giving up any more info than absolutely necessary to keep you on the edge of your seat.

There was an envelope in my mail box at home last night with the FIRST response since this all started - now we know where they are taking their stance in writing and with given back up data.

Now its gently get back in the fight with tact (but its not from my end as I have no tolerance and only good to find info)

All I can say to date is stay tuned - shows not over and we have more lions left.

 

[Gunzy]

Probably of no consequence, but I just titled a '91 BMY Harsco M932A2 in Utah with no problems. I did not register it for plates as it will be dismantled. I just figured that in the end it would be easier to scrap the left overs on a Utah title than on a SF97.

 

[papabear]

Probably of no consequence, but I just titled a '91 BMY Harsco M932A2 in Utah with no problems. I did not register it for plates as it will be dismantled. I just figured that in the end it would be easier to scrap the left overs on a Utah title than on a SF97.

If you wouldn't mind sending me a copy of that title I'd appreciate it. Of course all personal info will be redacted.

The only purpose is to show that other states are titling these exact same trucks and we can use that as ammo when the next attack is launched!

 

[Gunzy]

When I receive it in the mail I'll go copy it and contact you for a mailing address. Anything I can do to help.

 

[papabear]

When I receive it in the mail I'll go copy it and contact you for a mailing address. Anything I can do to help.

Thank you Sir!!

 

[ABN173]

Hey PB, talk to WSUCOUGARX (aka Mike Henderson) in Washington several fellows up there have 900 series 5tons plated. Also Oregon too like goodguyzy.

-Dale

 

[papabear]

Hey PB, talk to WSUCOUGARX (aka Mike Henderson) in Washington several fellows up there have 900 series 5tons plated. Also Oregon too like goodguyzy.-Dale

Roger that, but they have to be BMY/Harsco...not AMG etc.

 

[zout]

I greatly appreciate the assistance offered from other States.

Georgia does not have to honor another States title if this is they way their Code currently is - same senario as Wisconsin folks by all means.
Hope anyone in Georgia just takes a second to read the last part of the last sentence. If you do not get it - pm me because I will not type it OUT LOUD here for those looking and possibly could effect this.

Status is with the awesome "insiders" help they have touched base with those in the higher up positions. According to them the Georgia Committee has had this information presented to them before but it has yet to pass - so SOMEONE out there is trying and it would be great to hook up with them.
What we (we as in anyone wanting to legally title and register anything newer than an 1986 MV) need is a great presentation to submit this to the General Committee when they come back into session again -need to get it settled once and for all legally. I have no doubts we can do this.

There is an ole saying "What your not up on - your down on" and this could very well be the case - we are not driving these trucks to Kroger - Mall - Theatre on Fri night and on the public highways daily. The limitations of when nearly all of us take these out will make a huge impact in their decisions - along with the PR presentation we can present.

Starting with the 2013 Georgia Rally I know for one I will start gathering some awesome pics of mentally stable folks who care more for their truck than most commercial drivers do - and drive them.

Many thanks for the other folks in other states involved - but this is a Georgia thing.

Bigger thanks to the one individual I will not mention who, got their friend involved to start getting us in the right direction.

 

[zout]

Just so we have an update here - No news is Good news. Many things going on behind the scene that will not yet be discussed.

Not only are we talking MV;s the dirt bikers have their own issue going on with this as well as anyone who builds a kit car from all the details picked up. Even tho one gets their issue resolved it does not fix anyone else in this
delemia - each has to be resolved by itself in the General Committee. That is of course you get everyone involved to get everything revised which there is NWH that would happen as they would be in it for themselves.

We have some stuff going on which will not take at this time anyone getting involved in any shape manner or form - let us get things rollin because we are working on it politically.

 

[jnbullock]

Just a thought, I titled mine in Florida without incident. How would the state of Ga. deal with a transfer of a Fl. title. When I picked mine up in Atlanta I had to get a temp. Tag to get it back into Fl. I called several different offices and finally got what I needed at Fl. DOT

 

[zout]

What vehicle - what year - and Ga does not have to recognize any other states titles to transfer them.

1986 and newer - no matter what you have if an MV you may be dead meat as they have their eye on this - no matter how you have them titled. Therefore the cause to get this changed.

Just so you know - if we had residence in FL - GL would give us a clear title off the SF97 - as well as other states - GA does not do this per their code. Until this is changed they can do to Georgians to
what clearly happened in Wisc. So you got someone at a tag office to fudge it - someone is looking at this now here. There is a lot more behind this but I hesitate to state it here.

 

[jnbullock]

1990 Bmy A923A2. You have probably done this, but contact your local Congressman and present to him/her the inequities between states and how Ga.s Postion puts you at a disadvantage. I recommend you present them the solution you'd like. As I stated earlier my truck was purchased in Atlanta and brought back to Fl. and Fl. Got all the taxs collected.

 

[hndrsonj]

In post #2, it said BMY isn't in the GA database; I just titled my M101A1 Jeta Inc trailer in Wyoming. Jeta wasn't in the database, the supervisor at the Cheyenne tag office just added it to the Wyoming State database and I left with my title and tag in about 10 minutes. Sort of related. You guys just need to keep climbing the DMV hiearchy until you find the right person who can (will) do it.

 

[zout]

That's Why Maccus will wake up some morning and see us hooked up to his (my) power pole outside his garage.

For better understanding of the Ga thing - here you go: O.C.G.A. *40-2-27 Georgia Code which falls under the Dept of Revenue.

Does not matter pertaining just to the MV stuff (let the bikers and kit car builders fight their own battle) 1986 and ANYTHING newer. Could be an AM General - CUCV - etc. If its newer than 1986 you may be in for a surprise in the future unless this is changed (BTW) they do see the forced stuff in there as well FWIW - I am not typing anything they do not know at this present time. Go back and read what Wisc went though.

Anything that is 25yrs or older is not a problem.

We are indeed working this - but from the inside out and not stating here who the folks are or their positions - but we are near the TOP of the heap. Things are happening. This may have to be written into a Draft to present which would then turn into a house bill that woudl get presented through its steps - do not know quite yet.

 

[papabear]

When I receive it in the mail I'll go copy it and contact you for a mailing address. Anything I can do to help.

Got the title today Brother. Thank you Sir...now we have more ammo for the next salvo...whenever that kicks off.

 

[Gunzy]

Glad to hear that, hope it helps. It states clearly in make: BMYH.

 

[Whiterabbit]

It would be nice to have the option other than collector or Antique tags to be able to run standard bumper numbers with the tag in the glove box. Some states allow that I believe. I understand this is a fight to have post '86 FMV's titled but Georgia is sooooo bass aackwards and stubborn with some of these laws, you just want to move sometimes! I gave up trying to get a title on most of my junk. I was told I couldn't title my former Brit Military Land Rover because it wasn't an American vehicle and the vin didn't have enough numbers! I kid you not! I asked to see someone with an IQ higher than her shoe size and finally got it registered. I even showed the title from NC but was told they (their small town office) would not issue a title because it was pre '86. Fought them for a year to get a title-no title. Ugh! I was even "escorted" out of the building by Officer Friendly. I might move outt'a state!

 

[zout]

Well - I will add this for now that everything is working the process of politics.

Anyone in Ga with a 1986 or newer that wants future protection not to go through this may be called upon to call their legislative branch. But NOT NOW.
Lets things work as they are getting from baby stage into a progression of getting into a General Draft before it becomes a possible BILL.
Just let those involved work this out with the means they have to get this ball starting to roll or gather speed. Leave well enough alone for now please. Do not ruffle any feathers so to speak.

Legislative branch opens for business in January - so hang tight please. That is all I will tell you.

This will open the door for anyone with a 1986 or newer MV that has a legal SF97 from GL. That will open the door as well to transfer title from any other State that allows these to be titled and registered to then roll the paperwork
over to Ga if you move here.

Sit back - relax and just have your Senator or Representative phone number available when called upon and not till then.

Thanks for reading this thread and to almost most being concerned we get this cleared up so we can all run legal with future MV's here in Ga.
Hang in there group and get them phone numbers ready to represent yourselves professionally for this hobby..We may even have something prepared when you call so they are not overwhelmed and we are all on ONE TRACK.
All for now.

 

[zout]

Anyone one in a State that boarders Georgia that owns ANY MV that is titled and registered (legally) be it an AM General - Oskosh - BMY Harsco and later than a 1986 vehicle that would be willing to fax either PapaBear or myself a copy of your title it would be greatly appreciated. Other States after this we may call on you - but not necessary at this time - just boardering States to Georgia.

We are down to specifics at this time. Nothing more needed than requested IF you are willing to help - those that wish not to there is absolutely no problem with that and its your call. These will be treated as secret documents and not mis-used in any way. We only need to show at some time outlying States to Ga recognize and Title & Register these vehicles.

I did see some States Codes of Regulations specify they are used intermittently and have to be ORIGINAL an unmolested with the original markings as well (hope you know that).

Pm me or PB is you can assist us in this endeavor please. Thank You

 

[patracy]

Any update on this? I only ask because I might bid on one of these "problematic" vehicles this week.