M1101/1102 modification

[Newmexico]

Hello gents, im new here, I purchased a trailer not sure if it's an 1101 or 1102. I wanted to add 2ft to the tail end to fit my utv, comes in at 1700lbs with a full tank. Thoughts? I also can't seem to figure out the data plate. Previous owner attempted to remove paint and rubbed off most of the lettering.

 

[M813rc]

The M1101 and 1102 are exactly the same, the designation pertains to the towing capacity of the towing vehicle rather than the trailer (which is something I'll admit I have never understood the reasoning behind). So, for your purposes it really doesn't matter what model you have.

Attached are a photo of one of my data plates for you to get the information from, and the section from the TM concerning designation.

Cheers

 

[MarkM]

Putting a two foot Cantilevered extension on the bed will cause a number of issues. The center of gravity will move aft which will take weight off the pintle depending on how much weight is in the redesigned bed.

It also comes down to the weight of the towing vechicle to deal with the loads. If you will "just" be hauling a UTV in this trailer and the towing vechicle is at least a full size pickup you may be ok.

Heavy loads for a M1101/M1102 would be off the table and certainly heavier at the rear. The welded extentions to trailer frame will be interesting. Shame you have to fundamentally change a fine piece of metal. If you go this route please share pics and info.

Mark

 

[Newmexico]

Here is a pic of the tag, it doesnt say U.S. Property on the lower portion all I can read is manufacturing co Inc on the top and of course the vin and other stamped members, ill try and upload a picture of the trailer

 

[Newmexico]

my utv wheel base fits on it as is but just barley, it's a Kawasaki teryx4 which has a center mounted engine putting most of the weight in front of the trailer axel and on the lounge, ill be towing it with a 3/4 ton gmc just for local hunts nothing that would put me on major highways just back roads.
I have a car hauler but it's overkill for my utv and horrible on dirt roads. I picked it up pretty cheap I think for 500$ from a gentlemen who purchased at auction but never had paperwork nor registration.

 

[M813rc]

Ah! Not an M1102 cargo trailer, but an LTT-MCC or an LTT-HC! Basically the same 1102 frame and running gear, used for generators and other specialty items. There are a bunch of variations to these. That should make it easier for you to balance your vehicle load and maintain the proper CG and tongue weight.

Here is the data plate for one of mine. Same gross weight as an 1102, but higher payload capacity since there is considerably less bodywork. Your trailer must have had 100 pounds of frame or boxes on it, so a slightly higher empty weight than mine which is a flatbed.

Cheers

 

[Newmexico]

Ah! Not an M1102 cargo trailer, but an LTT-MCC or an LTT-HC! Basically the same 1102 frame and running gear, used for generators and other specialty items. There are a bunch of variations to these. That should make it easier for you to balance your vehicle load and maintain the proper CG and tongue weight.

Here is the data plate for one of mine. Same gross weight as an 1102, but higher payload capacity since there is considerably less bodywork. Your trailer must have had 100 pounds of frame or boxes on it, so a slightly higher empty weight than mine which is a flatbed.

Cheers

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Great info thank you so much for that, im really taking a shine to the trailer, im already looking for a longer version. I've seen some pictures online but aren't easy to find at auction. If it doesn't work out for my UTV I can always repurpose for collecting firewood or hauling an atv

 

[Guyfang]

There should be another data plate on the trailer telling you what it is exactly. HTT-MMC or HTT- HC.

 

[M813rc]

If you want a longer one, look for DRASH units (heating and airconditioning). Some of those are from a little bit to a lot longer.

I got this one to haul my M274 Mule behind the 5-tons, it is one of the longest versions with a GVW of 6000 pounds. It is designed for the LMTV trucks, so a bit big to tow behind a pickup, sits nose-low behind my M1028. But you could retrofit a taller adjustable pintle mount to make it tow flat. Or better yet, get one of the slightly smaller ones designed for the Humvee.

Cheers

 

[M813rc]

This would be a good size. I don't remember the designation and failed to take a photo of the data plate.

I regret not buying that one, but it was more than I wanted to pay at the time.

Cheers

 

[Newmexico]

If you want a longer one, look for DRASH units (heating and airconditioning). Some of those are from a little bit to a lot longer.

I got this one to haul my M274 Mule behind the 5-tons, it is one of the longest versions with a GVW of 6000 pounds. It is designed for the LMTV trucks, so a bit big to tow behind a pickup, sits nose-low behind my M1028. But you could retrofit a taller adjustable pintle mount to make it tow flat. Or better yet, get one of the slightly smaller ones designed for the Humvee.

Cheers

This one would be perfect, I could fit the utv and a couple of large coolers back there and still have tons of ground clearance! My gmc sits pretty tall on 33s and a level kit it might be just right for it. I'll definitely start looking, maybe I can sell the one I have while I search for a DRASH unit

 

[Mainsail]

Is there any reason he couldn't find a M1101/1102 tailgate and install it on the trailer he has now? With the tailgate down. the bed length would probably be long enough to fit the ATV.

 

[Newmexico]

Ill look around and see if I can find parts but that could work too if I had cables for the tailgate that could take the weight