M35 Starter Questions

[GunnersHusband]

couple/few questions. Can you rebuild the Duece starter? Does anyone sell a kit? Am I correct in assuming that I'll be able take the starter to a NAPA or the like to get it tested? I've looked at some of the recent threads regarding what readings I should be getting where.........but it's off the engine now soooooo............

 

[rosco]

I'd take it to an electric rebuilder. You might take it apart too, and see whats wrong with it. Sometimes it a very simple problem like a brush wire. You can get all the parts you need from a re-builder - burshes, bushings, bendix. You can test everything with a meter, but the armature. You have dont the hard part already - taking it off. Might as well see whats inside it.

Lee in Alaska

 

[GunnersHusband]

I'll certainly be taking it apart.......I just can't help myself, it's my nature.

 

[rosco]

Sure, you can do a lot of work on them, yourself. If the comutator isn't too bad, you can clean it up & smooth it with sand paper. You can undercut the mica (the little strip between the copper bars - they need to be lower then the bars so the brushes won't bump over them) with a broken piece of hack saw blade. Check all the terminals for contunity with a meter. Check the fields for shorts with the meter & see that each brush has reasnable tension from its spring. Before re-installing it, check it to se if it runs, on the floor, with jumper cables.

Lee in Alaska

A lot of times, you buy a rebuilt starter for big bucks that only got new set of brushes & a paint job.

 

[GunnersHusband]

said like an electrician. I'm looking forward to the project, I think that will be my new years day project!

Happy new year by the way, you ought to have what.......a little over two hours left...

 

[GunnersHusband]

that's certainly better than 200 for a used buy good or 400 for a nos or new one......... it's sitting on the work bench now calling to me...... I'll let everyone know how it turns out.

 

[GunnersHusband]

Working on the starter from the 109 that runs like a firebird, MHODGES bought the richmond truck all it needed was some good batteries, anyway Macon was taking the 109 for a little test drive, popped the cluctch (i think) and killed the truck, it hasn't started since. So i did what I do best......swapped parts. Took the starter off the other 109 and put it on the first. Fired right up! I hooked the bad one up the some jumper cables....... not a thing. So that's where I'm at.

 

[m-35tom]

used starters are $40 on evilbay

 

[GunnersHusband]

I'm gonna need one........ I tore it apart and it was wrecked, you guys will love these pics...... I'll post after I get some dinner.

 

[GunnersHusband]

Well here are the pictures, kind of grainy they were taken with my phone. Does anyone by chance have a picture of what one is supposed to look like when down to parade rest? As soon as I took of the cover to get at the brushes and carbon covered the floor, the brushes were gouged and broken, now I just wonder what part gave way first and started the chain reaction. Lookes like I need a used one to start over with, anyone here not on ebay have one for sale?

 

[GunnersHusband]

Tell me about it, Imagine my surprise when I open it up originally thinking 50 dollars in parts and I'll be on my way.......

 

[rosco]

What did the bendix look like? Sort of hard to tell from the pictures, but it took some power to do that.... Like the bendix stuck/didn't release, and when the engine fired, it over-spun the starter. Might be hard to use that one, to get the "core charge" back.

Lee in Alaska

 

[GunnersHusband]

Bendix looked pretty good, no worse than I'd expect from one in normal condition.

 

[cranetruck]

I have a deuce starter motor with a bad solenoid relay contact. It runs good, PM me if interested.
Shipping weight is about 65 lb.....no, it won't fit in a flat rate box....

 

[3d63]

has anyone changed just the sarter drive gear ? Mine has some wear on it but ever thing else is ok. thanks for any help

 

[Heavysteven]

Mine starting to click, wait a second then starter works fine. Thinking about taking to a local rebuilder along with alternator.