M44 headlight doors.. how many different styles are there?

[clinto]

How many different styles are there for the Deuce headlight doors?

I know there are the early style that have the hole for the electric horn and ther later ones don't, but it seems like I remember hearing people talk about there being 4 or 5 different styles.

What's up?

 

[Recovry4x4]

RE: M44 headlight doors.. how many different styles are ther

I'm only aware of the two you listed. The ones like you have can be reversed so that the headlights can be mounted high or low. The later trucks (guessing 60s up) had the fixed position doors. Never seen anything different than these.

 

[houdel]

My 1970 Kaiser Jeep appears to have the same headlight doors as Clinto's. If you look real close, you can see the knock-out for the electric horn below the right headlamp.

 

[Recovry4x4]

OK, perhaps that makes 3. Clinto's have a square panel that can be unbolted and reversed to move the headlights up or down. Lee's are the flat panel ones that are pre punched so that the panel can be knocked out for the electric horn. Then there are the ones that are not punched such as those on both of my trucks.

 

[emmado22]

My 1988 M35A2C has the non punch out pass side lower...

 

[acetomatoco]

Usta be that the winch models only had the H/L up... but for ease of standardization and training the dropout mechanics who installed winches later...they started putting em all on the top... ACE (that was after the electric horn was superceded by the obnoxious one)

 

[WillWagner]

It isn't obnoxious, just unique!

 

[clinto]

When did the air horns become standard equipment?

I'd like to know roughly when trucks began being built with the later passenger side headlight door that didn't have a provision for the electric horn.

 

[Barrman]

I know my 1965 series of manuals deals with both air and electric horn mounts and trouble shooting. I am pretty sure the 1976 series has info on both as well.

That doesn't really answer your question, but look at it this way. Gasser engines were replaced around 1958 and the 1965 manuals are the last to mention those engines. 7 years. So, if the 1976 manuals mention electric horns you can dangerously assume that electric horns were still installed new as late as 1969.

 

[cranetruck]

My '68 M49A2C has no provision for an electric horn....

 

[BFR]

I think my headlights are higher than yours Clint. Mine (1966) started out low and I flipped them when I did the winch install.

Mine has both horns, but the electric one has not worked since I bought it.

 

[BFR]

look at the relationship between the headlight and the tab on the grill that the hood hold down connects to

 

[Capt.Marion]

Here's another layout

 

[clinto]

I think gasser headlight doors are different...... look at the distance from the bottom of the hood to the headlight, gasser vs. multifuel.

 

[Recovry4x4]

Clinto, also worthy of noting is that the gasser grill is an inch shorter in height. This reminds me that I need to post a thread on a mod I made to the right door on my trucks. Its so simple and useful you will ask yourself why you didn't think of it.

 

[gringeltaube]

.......... a mod I made to the right door on my trucks. Its so simple and useful you will ask yourself why you didn't think of it.

???????? ..... intriguing mind wants to know......... obviously!

G.

 

[Recovry4x4]

A while back the market had a little surplus of HMMWV slave plugs with cables. These were a little different in the fact that the cover was threaded and o-ringed. I knocked a hole in the later style headlight door under the right headlight and mounted that NATO slave plug. The cables are a perfect length to attach to the battery cable at the starter. Having an additional slave plug at the front makes slaving easier especially with the shorter slave cable.

 

[armytruck63]

I know my 1965 series of manuals deals with both air and electric horn mounts and trouble shooting. I am pretty sure the 1976 series has info on both as well.

That doesn't really answer your question, but look at it this way. Gasser engines were replaced around 1958 and the 1965 manuals are the last to mention those engines. 7 years. So, if the 1976 manuals mention electric horns you can dangerously assume that electric horns were still installed new as late as 1969.

I have a friend with a sweet 1963 gasser M35. I believe the last gas powered trucks were made in 1963 or early 1964. They were superceded by the M35A1 with the LDT-427 engines.

 

[hndrsonj]

I have a friend with a sweet 1963 gasser M35. I believe the last gas powered trucks were made in 1963 or early 1964. They were superceded by the M35A1 with the LDT-427 engines.

Studebaker was making A1's in 1962. Who was the truck manufacturer?

 

[armytruck63]

I was mistaken, it is an M34. I will double check the year and manufacturer. I know it has the lower headlight position and the electric horn.