M998 2 man troop carrier without the top weighs #5,960 lbs & Springs

[kfrosty]

Just an FYI for anybody wanting to know the weight. Standard 37" tires, I do have the side rails and benches in the back and two people were in the unit on the scales.

There is an OLD scale house close to the house where you have to weigh on axle at a time. Front was #3,300 & rear was #2,360.

On that note, any recommendations for softer springs. (I don't want to loose any ground clearance but the camber on my rear tires looks like it's setup for a lot of weight. I doubt I'll every haul more than 1,000 lbs in the back if that.)

Thanks

 

[ohiohmmwv]

My camber is the same. I hauled 5 tires in the back and that pretty much made things straight. Upgrade to a slant back, that should fix your camber.

 

[kfrosty]

My camber is the same. I hauled 5 tires in the back and that pretty much made things straight. Upgrade to a slant back, that should fix your camber.

I'm probably going to keep this one as a 2 man so I can use the bed but just not going to haul that much weight.

 

[DatGuyC]

Remove the shims between the frame and the mounts for the rear upper control arms.

 

[kfrosty]

Remove the shims between the frame and the mounts for the rear upper control arms.

That just changes the camber, right? I'm looking to soften up the ride. I thought were different levels of spring stiffness?

 

[DatGuyC]

You can try finding m998 front springs and those might work, they are a lower rate. Otherwise you can go to the latter progressive springs that are softer with no weight but compress when you have a load. I think they require different spring perches and lower control arms though.

 

[hummer4x4guy]

M998 2 man troop carrier without the top weighs #5,960 lbs & Springs

These trucks in general weren't designed to ride soft. You could adjust your tire pressure. Perhaps that's a bit high. Usually they only have stiffer front springs for installing a snowplow.

 

[smashcrashy]

. Front was #3,300 & rear was #2,360.

Title say 5960, Numbers above say 5660. Just FYI.

 

[Retiredwarhorses]

Just an FYI for anybody wanting to know the weight. Standard 37" tires, I do have the side rails and benches in the back and two people were in the unit on the scales.

There is an OLD scale house close to the house where you have to weigh on axle at a time. Front was #3,300 & rear was #2,360.

On that note, any recommendations for softer springs. (I don't want to loose any ground clearance but the camber on my rear tires looks like it's setup for a lot of weight. I doubt I'll every haul more than 1,000 lbs in the back if that.)

Thanks

If all you have is a basic m998, you have the softest spring front and rear you can get.
also, you cannot use front springs on the rear....but can use rears on the front, not recommended unless you know what springs you are installing. This is a military vehicle....it was not made for soccer games and commuting, that's what a Prius is for. The only way to change up a bit is shocks or added weight to the truck.

 

[Blackmagic94]

What weight does your data plate show? That seems heavy

 

[patracy]

If all you have is a basic m998, you have the softest spring front and rear you can get.
also, you cannot use front springs on the rear....but can use rears on the front, not recommended unless you know what springs you are installing. This is a military vehicle....it was not made for soccer games and commuting, that's what a Prius is for. The only way to change up a bit is shocks or added weight to the truck.

Any idea if the 1038 has a heavier spring rate on the front for the winch? I honestly wouldn't mind the front to sit an 1" higher or so on my truck.

 

[tage]

Just use a set of rear springs.

 

[Retiredwarhorses]

Any idea if the 1038 has a heavier spring rate on the front for the winch? I honestly wouldn't mind the front to sit an 1" higher or so on my truck.

the standard front spring is a 954Lb Spring, the next up is the 1250lb Spring and then 1728lb, also referred to as a winch spring.
springs are also identified by a colored tie wrap, in the case of my M1097A2, my fronts have a yellow tie wrap, that denotes to a 954lb spring, which I find odd cuz it's got s Milemarker on it, but then again, I think that was added after the fact. My rears are HD type with casted upper Spring seats.
there are numerous different rear springs as well, heavy duty and variable rate, but be careful on variable rate, you have to use the newer type lower control arms to get the correct seating in the lower Spring seat.

I just added front 2k springs to correct an awful camber issue on a slantback ECV truck...I did the trick, and those Spring are cheap cheap cheap.

 

[DanM7890]

So looking at my truck I have this camber issue as well. Almost looks like it was adjusted with more weight on the rear (aka slantback or something else). Are you saying taking the shims out will correct this issue alone, or do I need to preform an actual alignment for the rear wheels.

 

[papakb]

Glad you cleared up that Prius issue Steve, I get confused there sometimes! LOL

 

[lgscott3]

the standard front spring is a 954Lb Spring, the next up is the 1250lb Spring and then 1728lb, also referred to as a winch spring.
springs are also identified by a colored tie wrap, in the case of my M1097A2, my fronts have a yellow tie wrap, that denotes to a 954lb spring, which I find odd cuz it's got s Milemarker on it, but then again, I think that was added after the fact. My rears are HD type with casted upper Spring seats.
there are numerous different rear springs as well, heavy duty and variable rate, but be careful on variable rate, you have to use the newer type lower control arms to get the correct seating in the lower Spring seat.

I just added front 2k springs to correct an awful camber issue on a slantback ECV truck...I did the trick, and those Spring are cheap cheap cheap.

Resurrecting this a little. I have a 998 4 man soft top. My brother wants to put spacers in the front to lift it up a little. I was thinking it would make more sense to replace the springs with something heavier. Are the 2K springs really rough? I think eventually we want to put maybe a 39" or 40" tire.

Thanks.

 

[osteo16]

put in an air ride seat