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Make M105 lower?
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Forgetting the 2750# lets look at the numbers. Lunette height for the 105 is 36". Need to get it down to 24" for your CUCV. You would need at least a 10" shorter tire. Don't know what would fit. M101 is a much better choice in the long run.
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A bunch of people have simply replaced the M105 axle with smaller, civilian axles and wheels, in order to reduce their height. Do a search here on SS.
Ultimately, I am with Kenny-I'd keep an eye out for a nice 101 and save your 105 for the deuce you need to eventually buy.
Ultimately, I am with Kenny-I'd keep an eye out for a nice 101 and save your 105 for the deuce you need to eventually buy.
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3dangus has some tires/rims off a bolster trailer which use the same bolt pattern that will lower you significantly but I do not know the specific height. It might do what you want.
Pm Him, They were listed in the classifieds not sure if they are still there?
Pm Him, They were listed in the classifieds not sure if they are still there?
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Axle swap is viable. The 14 bolt is no lightweight so you won't pare off that much weight. Will the CUCV keep its stock suspension? Shoot for a matching bolt pattern with the truck.
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I use my Econoline to move mine around so went the opposite direction. I have a 12" riser adapter so just yesterday I went to the local structural steel shop and had a 16" plain riser plate made of equivalent material with the same hole pattern. It will be bolted into the top 3 (vertical) holes of the riser plate with 6 bolts, then the pintle mounted on top. That's about an add'l 10". Cost was $20.
It solves the hookup problem and levels the trailer a bit. I might actually get another that's 24 to either pick up more bolt thrus or to get a bit more height.
All that is not to be construed as a recommendation to then take that hookup out on the Interstate and haul cookies.
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It solves the hookup problem and levels the trailer a bit. I might actually get another that's 24 to either pick up more bolt thrus or to get a bit more height.
All that is not to be construed as a recommendation to then take that hookup out on the Interstate and haul cookies.
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Once you tow a properly loaded M101 trailer and feel how they can wag the M1009, you will probably reconsider towing anything bigger or heavier.
After seeing one guy's post after having an empty M105 roll his M1008, I would not even try moving an M105 with an M1009 on the road.
After seeing one guy's post after having an empty M105 roll his M1008, I would not even try moving an M105 with an M1009 on the road.
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According to Olive Drab (http://olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_m105_trailer.php) the empty weight of the trailer is 2,650 pounds.
Even putting a smaller axle and tires on it is going to put a strain on the M1009's towing capacity especially if you put a significant load on it.
I vote with the other faithful and say get a M101 or one of the M1102's that are getting cheap lately.
Even putting a smaller axle and tires on it is going to put a strain on the M1009's towing capacity especially if you put a significant load on it.
I vote with the other faithful and say get a M101 or one of the M1102's that are getting cheap lately.
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Why the 14bolt, what a waste. Just grab a minivan axle. No weight, some capacity, parking brakes. They can't be expensive as they are just a tube.
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For giggles I went to CL and tried to guess the right search listing for your area of 'Central Florida'. If it's any consolation, your prices and conditions down there aren't any worse than ours up here. Unless you find a great deal, they've gone up in price. Nevertheless, the extra couple of $ for the 101 in price, recovery ride, or both makes it just a much smarter choice for a light truck. A couple of extra $ on the front end will pay off handsomely in usage. I love my 101.
FWIW, my friend Art towed my 105 about 10 miles on local streets w/ his CUCV to store it and he positively swore off it as well as at it. On his Deuce, he loves it. I've towed a snowblower and Mule in separate trips in my Econoline/105 rig and wouldn't put more than 1000 lbs in it on a bet. Even then I'd be vewwy, vewwy conservative about speed, road conditions, following distances, trip distances, etc., and I'd take zero chances. Common sense says it's just too much trailer overhead for the vehicle for general use, and it could go into business for itself in the blink of an eye.
The worst part, as I've written a couple of times, is that it tows so nicely that you can easily forget what's chasing you and get complacent, speed up, loose your focus, and then bingo - it could bite you.
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FWIW, my friend Art towed my 105 about 10 miles on local streets w/ his CUCV to store it and he positively swore off it as well as at it. On his Deuce, he loves it. I've towed a snowblower and Mule in separate trips in my Econoline/105 rig and wouldn't put more than 1000 lbs in it on a bet. Even then I'd be vewwy, vewwy conservative about speed, road conditions, following distances, trip distances, etc., and I'd take zero chances. Common sense says it's just too much trailer overhead for the vehicle for general use, and it could go into business for itself in the blink of an eye.
The worst part, as I've written a couple of times, is that it tows so nicely that you can easily forget what's chasing you and get complacent, speed up, loose your focus, and then bingo - it could bite you.
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There is a M101A2 trailer in Central Fl for sale with cover on craigslist. They are three times better then a M105 for a civilian vehicle. But, they cost more too, due to the demand and useability for multipurpose useage. The M105 is great for a deuce, but that's about it.
And yes, I have some bolster tires in like new condition. I doubt they have over 500 miles on them. I have three and am about ready to discount them just to have some more room for storage around here. One fella bought some, and lowered the trailer some by moving the axle below the springs before he purchased. He was much happier with doing both tires and moving the axle lower. Moving the axle under and putting on a full load puts about 5500 pounds on those Ubolts. That's a lot and I don't know what kind of stress they'll take but I found it interesting.
PM if interested in the tires. Also have a M105 and M101 trailer for sale. I might be able to haul it down there in a few weeks if interested. See the classifieds under "3Dangus".
And yes, I have some bolster tires in like new condition. I doubt they have over 500 miles on them. I have three and am about ready to discount them just to have some more room for storage around here. One fella bought some, and lowered the trailer some by moving the axle below the springs before he purchased. He was much happier with doing both tires and moving the axle lower. Moving the axle under and putting on a full load puts about 5500 pounds on those Ubolts. That's a lot and I don't know what kind of stress they'll take but I found it interesting.
PM if interested in the tires. Also have a M105 and M101 trailer for sale. I might be able to haul it down there in a few weeks if interested. See the classifieds under "3Dangus".