New EPA Regulations On Large Truck Emissions

[SasquatchSanta]

Hello,

I happened to see a short video clip this morning on the Fox News website about new EPA regulations on heavy truck emissions. In the video several truckers that were interviewed were concerned that it might put them out of business.

I always thought when the Govt implemented new emmissions restrictions it was on new trucks. This didn't sound to be that way.

Is this going to effect the vintage MV hobby?

 

[73m819]

I understand that in CA. the state gave ALL the big trucks so many years to comply, ether NEW trucks, OR install NEW compliant motors

 

[Stan]

What I'm aware of thus far has only applied to new trucks.

 

[F18hornetM]

Same here, all I have heard is new trucks. Its hard to re-tro emissions on older engines. If not impossible. Of course calif, could do it. We have a bunch of DPF filters on new IHs and are a pain. Already have had to have 4 cleaned, and not under warranty. The fords with the Def fluid have not been an issue, yet! I can just see a M35 with a catalytic convertor on it

 

[SCcowgirl80]

I subscribe to Landline which is a magazine for truck drivers that are members of OOIDA (Owner Operator and Independent Driver Assoc.). There also was an article in this month's issue about these new regs. This is the way it stacked up:

All 2014 and newer heavy trucks (heavy duty pick up trucks, RV's and tractor trailers trucks) will have the new engines that are supposed to get 10% minimum better fuel mileage.

All 2013 and older trucks will have to be retrofitted with components to increase their fuel mileage by 10% minimum.

There was no mention of trucks that would be classified as Antiques. I don't think trucks that old will be expected to adhere to these new regulations. I'll post more info as I get it as I am researching this topic quite a bit because of my parent's trucking business.

 

[uscgmatt]

I could see where this could get expensive, and take alot of trucks off the road. Darn EPA.

 

[sandcobra164]

The EPA is part of the reason we have these trucks now. Do some research, they hated the multi, only allowed 5,000 to be purchased in the late 80's, early 90's, and basically forced the military to pull the plug on it. Now we have these wonderful clean, computer controlled Diesels that meet Tier II emissions standards but are a nightmare to maintain and fail many times more often. I personally feel that since the military comprises less than 1 percent of the population, they should be exempt to a certain extent. I'm not saying they should be allowed to pour oil on the backs of baby seals, but there should be some, wait for it, checks and balances in the decision making process in regards as how the military is regulated in these regards.

 

[flyxpl]

The gov/military does not follow many laws , curious as to why they bother with the EPA .
I have heard complaints about maintaining the anti pollution systems on some of the newer diesel pickups .

 

[dikwks]

I saw the same story and wondered how long it would take to generate a thread here. The way the story sounded, the new rules would affect older vehicles. But wait, doesn't that violate the "ex post facto" article of the constitution. I've heard of being "grandfathered in" with regard to different new rules and thought the epf clause was the logic used in those cases. How can a government agency tell us "It was OK yesterday but today it is illegal" ?

 

[73m819]

I saw the same story and wondered how long it would take to generate a thread here. The way the story sounded, the new rules would affect older vehicles. But wait, doesn't that violate the "ex post facto" article of the constitution. I've heard of being "grandfathered in" with regard to different new rules and thought the epf clause was the logic used in those cases. How can a government agency tell us "It was OK yesterday but today it is illegal" ?

BECAUSE thay can and do, remember the government is ONLY looking out for you

 

[DieselBob]

the constitution.

What a quaint and antiquated idea to most bureaucrats.

 

[dikwks]

BECAUSE thay can and do, remember the government is ONLY looking out for you

But I am not a drone.

 

[dikwks]

What a quaint and antiquated idea to most bureaucrats.

That scares the bejeebers out of me.

 

[natem]

My understanding is, all commercial vehicles will need to comply with current smog standard by 2014. Fuel mileage is something else.

Ether way do you think a multi-fuel can make the standard? Or a CUCV for that matter?

Nate

 

[uscgmatt]

Sure with new engines. And not multi's.

 

[dozer1]

What I'm aware of thus far has only applied to new trucks.

Thus far I agree with this post. A little google work yielded this EPA Issues Regulations on Heavy Trucks Gas Emissions - Fox News Video - Fox News But nothing there lead me to believe old MVs or even my 17 year old Volvo semi will be affected.

 

[73m819]

CA. is ahead of the curve, thay all ready have this sort of law

 

[natem]

Look to California regs. That will be your future.

Edit: man I gotta type faster!

 

[Cleptomaniac]

Yep they hit the nail on the head at the end of the video! "Consumers could be hit the hardest. Buy paying for goods delivered buy fewer trucks" That's the way it always goes.

 

[DieselBob]

Never fear. It won't take long for them to re-write the regs on a federal level to make the rest of us surfs comply.