thanks guys!!! I admit the knowledge is limited in the military arena, partially due to being a civilian, and spending my life playing around with hot rods, lifted trucks, drag racing, land speed racing, etc.. Always had a small interest in this spectrum though. What started this mess for me was getting back into the Off road world...2.5 tons, 5 tons, military tires, and winches as corny as that may sound. People look at me funny when I tell them Im putting a Warn 18 on my wheeling rig...most of them think a 9500 is huge haha...I also set my truck up to fit 54s, with a focus of running 48s on the street. I plan on doing tug o war with it as well and I dont want to tear apart my small tire (44 inch bogger) or the Vtreads I plan on running. While Im still going to be on tons, most of my friends are on 2.5 or 5 tons...Im just a fabricator that is also a knowledge junkie haha