New guy - lift question

[motormayhem]

I have 36" tires and 4" lift and the stock system works great with a lifted steering arm until I get really flexed out. Then I can turn all driver or all passenger and the tires stay relatively in the same position.

 

[ThunderOne]

What is WAY off? you do NOT want the pinoin to be straight with the drive shaft.

There are 4 boults that attach the crossmember to the frame, they are about 1.25 inches longer than needed and have a spacer to take up that extra. The bolts go from the bottom up and the spacer is on the nut side, above the frame rail. Remove the 4 bolts and place the spacers between the frame and x-member, reinstall the bolts. This drops the t-case a lil for no cost at all.

There is another trick to but it requiers new d-shafts as stated before. You can use a rear housing and output shaft from a dodge with a fixed rear yoke. Gives you room for a longer shaft.

So you can lift the truck how many inches and do the T-case drop before you have to extend the driveshaft? More than 6?

Also, I thought the pinion angle was supposed to be aligned (or close to aligned with slight neg) with the driveshaft to avoid excess wear on your u-joints. Am I wrong or something?? Everytime people get vibes after lifting Tacomas a shim always fixes it.
http://www.carcraft.com/howto/91758/index.html
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[Cucvnut]

I lifted my suburban 6 inches and never had to move the t case up or down and my stock drive shafts worked.

 

[Cucvnut]

the M1009 and M1008 and so forth don't have pinion issues. don't worry about it. a Toyota is set up different.

 

[jamesonsdad]

great info Odave on the crossover looking forward to seeing more pics I'm wanting to lift my oh9 and less expensive is always a plus these days

 

[ThunderOne]

I lifted my suburban 6 inches and never had to move the t case up or down and my stock drive shafts worked.

Okay, thanks.

 

[ODdave]

Lifted my dads 1009, stock shafts but had to move the spacers.

 

[SmokeyDod]

On my M1028, I put a 4" lift via block under rear springs and new 5-leaf springs in front with 2-1/2" thick block under the std pitman arm . I had also to change shocks and put new 4" longer brake lines on front. I run the 37" radials. Been on for 3 yrs. and have not had any problems. I've been to "Tellico" a few times off roading and so far all has been fine. If someone went higher than 4", I don't know what you would need.

 

[ODdave]

Sorry guys, i didnt make it home in time to get pics of the 1028 crossover But i was able to take a few of one of the others (12in lift) I built a raised arm for this one but it gives you an idea to help wet the whistle. It has a different rod end up top but its all we had at the time.

 

[Cucvnut]

That angle os pretty steep on that I would put a bend in that bar. But that's cool you have a good cheap set. Up

 

[ODdave]

the only thing you would gain by bending the bar is aligning the rod ends a lil bit, there is still plenty of travel left in them (this truck has seen air time). You would not change the bump steer (which is still minimal) and would make it a pita to adjust. The 1028 has much less of an angle.

 

[ODdave]

Here they are, 1028 w/ 6in lift OP, sorry about overrunning the thread.

 

[Cucvnut]

Looks like my cross over

 

[ThunderOne]

On my M1028, I put a 4" lift via block under rear springs and new 5-leaf springs in front with 2-1/2" thick block under the std pitman arm . I had also to change shocks and put new 4" longer brake lines on front. I run the 37" radials. Been on for 3 yrs. and have not had any problems. I've been to "Tellico" a few times off roading and so far all has been fine. If someone went higher than 4", I don't know what you would need.

Isn't Tellico closed now?

 

[DokWatson]

Heres my steering...decided it was time to upgrade after breaking steering bolts on the street. 7" lift, no those aren't blocks in the front. Zero rates.

Notice the missing crossmember. 3/8 plate welded to the inside of the frame with a steel pipe in between them. The frame needs to be braced for crossover steering, or it will eventually crack the frame and tear the box off. ORD sells a frame brace to use with a stock crossmember.

 

[Cucvnut]

Zero rates attach to the spring pack unlike blocks but don't ever run blocks up front. I have zero rates also in the front.

 

[rnd-motorsports]

Just a note to all also keep an eye on the right rear spring bushings and shackles/ frame bushings have seen some with a lot of wear with crossover stearing! just a note! Nice job on the cheap crossover setup looks great!! and the money you save can go for other upgrades!
And the ( I built that ) pricless!!

 

[japickar]

Well once again, I guess I should have listened. After driving my truck around with the steering block, I am ready to convert to crossover. There is just too much slop on center and not enough turning radius for me to be satisfied.

ODdave, would you please PM me a link to the steering arm you bought off of ebay? Thanks in advance.

 

[Cucvnut]

also if you really want to get crazy get hydro assist makes steering a breeze.

 

[japickar]

If I go with bigger tires in the future I probably will go with hydro assist. If I played in the rocks I would do it when I convert to crossover, but IMO for where I drive and the setup I currently have it is not necessary right now. Of course I may prove myself to be wrong again.....