New plate option for Texas boys.

[Rene M]

A vehicle, regardless of size, weight, or year of manufacture, that was manufactured for use in any country's military forces and is restored and maintained to accurately represent its military design and markings. The vehicle may be used only for parades, club activities, exhibitions, and other functions of public interest and may not be used for regular transportation.
Former Military Vehicle plates are issued for five-year periods. The registration fee for the five-year period is $50.30 ($10 per year, plus an additional 30 cents for the registration insignia) for vehicles manufactured in 1921 and subsequent years and $40.30 ($8 per year, plus an additional 30 cents for the registration insignia) for vehicles manufactured in 1920 and prior years. Fees are reduced $10/$8 for each year of the period that has elapsed at the time the application is filed.


Former Military Vehicle

 

[USAFSS-ColdWarrior]

Under that same Texas Registration Class - Former Military Vehicle - you also have the option of NO PLATES AT ALL.....

The pic below shows the "Registration" of our Deuce, known as "The ARK".

In accordance with Bumper Marking Regulations.....
"USAF" - My former Branch;
"6971SS" - My former Unit - 6971st Security Squadron (Ft. Geo. G. Meade, MD)
"BARIOU" - My last name - "Unit responsible for daily maintenance/operation"
"ARK-1" - Vehcle function/number - ARK= Acts of Random Kindness - her mission.
and
The Number on the top rail of the tailgate is The ARK's Serial Number.

And THAT is how she's registered !

FMV's are also exempt from annual inspections, and display NO WINDSHILED STICKERS as that would not be the proper military appearance.

I carry copies of ALL applicable Texas and Military regs to cover any roadside disussions with unknowledgable LEO's. Have never yet had to show "proof".

Thanks for an informative Thread.

 

[kc5mzd]

That’s the "old" law. The police here seem to know about it but it was an experience at the DMV. They had to call Austin and it took a couple of trips. They were very nice and seemed to just want to make sure they did the registration right.
The hard part was finding the forms...

 

[Barrman]

What do you mean "old law?" We can still do the plates or bumper number thing. I just titled and registerd my M1009 last month with bumper numbers only. The links in this several year old thread are good and even though the form was updated in 11/09. Nothing has changed:

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/conversations/9593-texas-former-military-vehicle-registration.html

 

[mkcoen]

FMV with no tags works great for the bigger trucks (have my deuce registered that way) but if you try driving a CUCV or similar vehicle that was also produced as a civi job you can expect to get pulled over eventually.

I was pulled over twice in my 1009 and both times showed the LEO the appropriate section from the code book. They didn't believe my paperwork so I showed them the appropriate section in THEIR code book. They still didn't believe it. And the only thing that saved me from a ticket was that I was traveling under a trip permit because the registration wasn't finalized yet (still waiting on the SF97).

A couple of guys in the Austin MVPA were also pulled over in 1009s and given tickets that they had to fight over (they won, but still...).

I now have my M1010 registered as a normal vehicle so I don't have to worry about it (I do drive it more frequently than allowed under FMV rules) but if I change it back I will definately do it with a FMV tag.

 

[kc5mzd]

What do you mean "old law?" We can still do the plates or bumper number thing.

It's not a new law...
It's an old law...

Nothing has changed Texas is very relaxed when it comes to restored military vehicles.

 

[kc5mzd]

When I registered mine the DMV couldn't figure ouy how to put the number thing in their computer so I went with plates.
They offered to try to figure it out by calling Austin again...

 

[M813rc]

A couple of guys in the Austin MVPA were also pulled over in 1009s and given tickets that they had to fight over (they won, but still...).

But not by Austin PD, it was in small towns outside Austin.

My son (one of those mentioned above) got pulled over in Round Rock, the officer looked at the paperwork, said "Cool, haven't ever seen this before" and sent him on his way. The officer later called me so I could help direct him to all the relevant code sections; he thought it was a great law, but was somewhat abashed at not knowing about the MV part, though he did know about the Antique part. There is, however, no way for an officer to know all the permutations of a traffic code that covers 700 plus pages of tiny type, so nothing to be embarrassed about. Even better, he educated himself on it when he found there was something he was unfamiliar with.

Ten minutes later in Tiny Town son gets stopped again, this officer looks over the paperwork and says "This just doesn't make sense" and writes him four tickets (including two for the same thing). She is the type that gets all the professional officers stuck with the aftereffects.

Just goes to show that while most cops do it right every day, it is the small percentage of less-than-stellar ones who generate the most interest and comment.

Not surprisingly, it is only the 1009s that ever get pulled over here, no doubt because they look like a civvie vehicle with camo paint. Oh well....

Cheers

 

[Maverick1701]

It's not a new law...
It's an old law...

Nothing has changed Texas is very relaxed when it comes to restored military vehicles.

X2...its been around for a whle

 

[Maverick1701]

Ten minutes later in Tiny Town son gets stopped again, this officer looks over the paperwork and says "This just doesn't make sense" and writes him four tickets (including two for the same thing). She is the type that gets all the professional officers stuck with the aftereffects.

Just goes to show that while most cops do it right every day, it is the small percentage of less-than-stellar ones who generate the most interest and comment.

Not surprisingly, it is only the 1009s that ever get pulled over here, no doubt because they look like a civvie vehicle with camo paint. Oh well....

Cheers

idiots like that give officers everywhere a bad name....

 

[USAFSS-ColdWarrior]

Hmmmm Just thinking here....

With Texas FMV Registration, if the TxDMV could also issue a CERTIFICATE specifically stating that NO PLATES nor STICKERS are necessary, and that the vehicle is completely LEGAL without them. Also a printed WARNING to LEO's of potential penalties against LEO's who abuse their authority when presented such a CERTIFICATE.

Should we LOBBY for a revision to the LAW ? ? ?

 

[mkcoen]

Hmmmm Just thinking here....

With Texas FMV Registration, if the TxDMV could also issue a CERTIFICATE specifically stating that NO PLATES nor STICKERS are necessary, and that the vehicle is completely LEGAL without them. Also a printed WARNING to LEO's of potential penalties against LEO's who abuse their authority when presented such a CERTIFICATE.

Should we LOBBY for a revision to the LAW ? ? ?

Excellent idea! I nominate Rory. Seconds??

 

[Maverick1701]

I would just stop by and chat w/the local Sheriff.
I would be willing to bet that if you asked nicely he would print you out the same thing on some of the Sheriffs Office letterhead.


it wouldnt be the same as getting something from the DMV, or TxDOT...but you might ask them too...

 

[Flyingvan911]

I second Maverick's idea. Texas is know for doing things in ways that make sense. I wish Missouri would adopt the Texas style validation stickers that go inside the windshield. I'm tired of them being stolen off of my plates. None of the anti-theft ideas work for long.

 

[reloader64]

Mark, I second your nomination, with great enthusiasm.

Scott

 

[kastein]

I second Maverick's idea. Texas is know for doing things in ways that make sense. I wish Missouri would adopt the Texas style validation stickers that go inside the windshield. I'm tired of them being stolen off of my plates. None of the anti-theft ideas work for long.

Around here we have problems with plates being stolen occasionally (not the stickers, the plate and all.) Easy way to stop it is to just put the plate inside the window, makes it hard enough to get at that most plate thieves will simply move to the next vehicle.

Obviously this only works for small vehicles with rear glass, like a CUCV, not larger vehicles.