New rule proposal...

[steelsoldiers]

RE: Well....

Seriously guys and gals. We have beaten this topic to death numerous times and I'm sure it will come up again. There are VERY passionate people on both sides of the issue. Some want absolutely no auction postings and some want to post any and every auction posting. This issue would continue to come to light even if I were to make it an absolutism one way of the other. It becomes a real sticking point anytime some "special" truck comes along like the M123A1C.

People just need to use their common sense and be respectful of each other's feelings. Before you post a link to an auction, think about how it is going to affect the welfare of the site. If you see an auction pop up and you get pissed because you were going to bid on it, take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard. It doesn't mean you are more or less likely to win or lose the item in question. I have bid on LOTS of trucks that I never mentioned on SS and I still got out-bid once I reached my limit. There are tens or maybe even hundreds of thousands of people watching these auction sites for the next great deal. I would love to know how many thousands of people had that ten ton on their watch list and were "planning on bidding to win" long before it was ever mentioned on SS. My point is, don't post auctions on a whim and don't get all torqued up if you see a link to a auction that you were going to bid on. Show a little tolerance for each other, including the newbies. We all share a love for the green or tan iron and should be able to treat each other with some common decency.

 

[CUCVFAN]

Re: I for one...

Better to post a link to an auction and get another piece of OD saved from a scrapper than to sit quietly by and let a scrapper win it and then start discussing why didn't someone post it so that it could be saved. As much as I like a good steal as the next guy I also understand that today's internet useage by those looking to buy the chances of stealing something is long gone.

With fuel at $4.50 per gallon, NO scrapper is buying any truck on GL for the prices they are currently bringing. This "Saving trucks" rationale is only an excuse that is used to make the act of posting things that you are not bidding on appear noble. If a scrapper can get $3K for a 10-ton (minus his hauling fees), how many members would be willing to pony up $4K or more for one that is not in their backyard? NOT MANY, regardless of what they say. The trucks that are getting scrapped are the trucks that are sitting in salvage yards, not GL trucks. I've got no problem with someone posting those types of threads, but posting something that is so easy for anyone to find in a few minutes is frivilous.

Chances are once it hits the GL list before the opening bid anyone that is interested in it has already found it so the bidding war is gonna happen anyway.

Then why bother to post it? Should I post a thread every morning about where the sun is rising today? Seriously, I've yet to hear a good answer to this.

...After all don't you have fun when you bid on a truck? I know I do and I have not won one yet because I am too cheap to pony up the money right now. No one has posted the links for the trucks that I have been bidding on and they still went for more than I had. So this no posting rule is not affecting my purchasing, only my choice of top bid dollar is hurting it.

Winning is fun. If I want something, it's fun to win it. And this is not a cause an effect relationship. People NOT posting about the auctions did not make the trucks go higher than you were willing to spend. If you were seriously bidding for a truck, would you post it here as a "Check out this cool truck" thread? Again, I've yet to hear anyone say "Heck yeah!".

Maybe a survey to see how many have started bidding becasue they saw a link on here. Let's get some facts and make decissions based on facts not on guessing and I think....

And, let's also ask how many already knew about it and if they think the auction link should have been posted. I'll bet I know which number will be higher. Nobody posts about auctions they are bidding on. Why?

Again I say "LET HE WHO BIDS THE MOST WIN" after all that is what happens anyway.

Ok enough ranting for today... Sorry if I offened someone did not mean too only to throw my in on the subject.

I agree, the highest bid always wins. No offense taken, just a differeing point of view.

As for collusion... The rules on a privately owned forum are set by the owner.
There are plenty of reasons not to post links to auctions:
1) The links become stale, but the thread stays.
2) Everyone already knows, so it's a waste of bandwidth.
3) GL is paying for advertising here, so these posts are like freebies that make no revenue for the site.
4) Not allowing auction posts is a good way to prevent unscrupulous individuals from bidding an item up without intention of purchase. That, too, is collusion and is illegal.

I, for one, was not going to bid on the M123A1C. I would not have posted if I was, but I knew about way before it was posted here. If I knew a friend who was bidding, I would not post. Would I post if I new a friend whose friend was seriously bidding? Probably not. At what point do you draw the line? And why did you draw it there...

The M123A1C is going to fetch $20-30K, which is fine by me. I wish I could afford it, but I think I'd rather just buy one that needs a little work for $7K. And even that won't be happening soon...

 

[CUCVFAN]

RE: Re: I for one...

Man, look at all of those posts. I need to type faster! Or, I guess I could just save my energy.... Nah! What fun would that be! Die thread! DIE!!!!

 

[Elwenil]

RE: Re: I for one...

I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one. I for one will not post any link or information about auctions. I think it is a frivolous and selfish thing to do, personally, but that is beside the point. I do think that some of you need to look at your posts and think seriously about if they really make any sense. Some things that were said in this thread were not only illogical, but outright wrong. But whatever, I'm done. I hope someone at least remembers this the next time they get their auction narc'd out or when the next "cool" thing hits the block and it starts this all over again.

Chris, you can lock or delete this thread, it's run it's course. Sorry for the disturbance.

 

[steelsoldiers]

RE: Re: I for one...

Lanty, I appreciate your input. You have always been a logical and reasonable guy. I have tossed around numerous scenarios in an effort to make everyone happy, but as you can see, there is no perfect rule. There are even different opinions between the moderators and I have some really good friends on both sides of the issue. It is tough when you have to rely on the common sense of posters, because common sense can be in really short supply on the internet. No offense meant to anyone in particular.

I appreciate the feedback from the other members as well. Let's let this sleeping dog lie for a little while longer, OK?