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NP 208 transfer case brace

cucvrus

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Yes it is a strut rod in the GM manual and I seen it called a torque rod in other statements. It is NOT a CUCV item. I don't think many people will want it. It seems to be getting a bad review at Steel Soldiers. I am sold on it. It will do what I want it to do. I am working on getting a sample out to a fabricator. So STRUT ROD or TORQUE ROD get my vote as the name. The TERMINOUS M1009 STRUT ROD CONVERSION. How's that. My truck so I get to call it what ever I want. ::::)))))
 

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US $45.00 + $16. S&H. I would never go out and take one off and package it up and ship it for that price. $45. don't even get me to stand up anymore. I had bigger bar tab's then that. It is a direct bolt on genuine GM part. The shipping is high because of package length. You could take a 5/8" piece of round stock and measure it and cut it weld flat bar on both ends and drill it. That would take a hour or so. Bang easy. But this guy is sending the M16 bolts and all. IMHO. That's a deal. He has 2 hurry before they are gone. I will be installing mine tonight. Sometimes money is the best tool. It opened a lot of doors for me. Closed a few also. Time is $$$$$. Have a great day.
 

cucvrus

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I am not arguing that. my point is it is less then a case of good German beer. If you want something go take it off at a you pull it and use your time and pay for it. The shipping is irrelevant. I pay guys to work so I know what it takes to pay my bills pass or fail. If you think you can buy it else where cheaper or build it for less. that is a risk you take being the one looking for a particular item. I found out a long time ago the time to buy something you want and need is when you see it. being 25+ years since they made the last series of these trucks. Buying rare parts and wanted parts on the CHEAP are over. I used to buy GM doors in GM boxes for $115. I sold them for $150. I wish I could buy them for $300. nice even used. Maybe in the west but not in the north east. My point being a $61. item is not worth much thought with bolts and all. The bolts are $3. each at the hardware store. Have a great day. I am installing one strut / torque rod tonight. I don't expect anything spectacular to change or achieve any different results. The reason I installed it was because I had a few of them. 3 bolts and looked like a useful purposeful item. Gotta go. Got customers waiting.

Oh yea. Your door is welded shut.
 

cucvrus

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Part number 14020856 available on gmpartsgiant for $33

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US $45.00 Man there goes my European vacation I had planed from the sale of my 2 used strut rods. Someone always undercutting me. How much fun discussion can you have with a piece of 5/8" round stock? I was unaware anyone was looking for one. I just had a few and wanted to add one to my build. Thank you for the information. That is still not a delivered price.
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cucvrus

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At that price it's definitely in the not-worth-making-your-own category.
I agree whole heartedly. My point was at $45. with the bolts and all it was a good deal. This item is longer then standard shipping. And I also want to point out that is someone was going out crawling under a vehicle and taking the rod off and selling it for less. They like working for free. At a local YOUPULLIT. It would be a N/C item if I were going there and getting other parts. When I say N/C I pay a $2. entrance fee to just walk the 5K vehicles and look for what I want. Old GM squares are far and few and bone picked clean or smashed/rusty. Let's add this rod as a must have. NOT. Like I said I done it because I had it the holes were there and I just wanted it in my situation. And as many times as I bent the cross-member and heard the transfer case against my floor. Nothing ever hit the transfer case. The skid plate always stayed a 1/4" away. I have the rod now I like it whether it helps me or not. I know it can't hurt anything. like you mentioned wearing a helmet. I just don't think my head will get hot with the strut rod. Not as hot as others have gotten over it. All is well and the option is open and it is as easy as 3 bolts. Have a great day. I sold 1 a few minutes ago. Or sale is pending.
 

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This item is longer then standard shipping.
That wouldn't bother the local LTL shipping company. They'd simply fold that rod in half to make it fit.
Unfortunately, here UPS has started handling freight in a similar fashion. Had to spend quality time with the hammer and dolly to make a bolt assortment bin usable last week.
 

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My pickup started bleeding ATF. Got under it and noticed the bolt that held the support rod to the bellhousing was broken, and that my 700r4 case was cracked at the rear output flange. Went to pick-n-pull today to get another 700r4 “K” case. Now I need to swap all the good stuff out of my cracked one into the new case, plus new bushings/seals/frictions.

Also got some ARP bolts for the bellhousing so next time I’ll break something else...

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I like that strut-rod-thing. I even like it in pink. My thoughts are to do the xfer case clocking thing, to get it up out of the way. That would not solve the driveshaft-banging-in-to-it problem, would still need the rod, but a dimensionally (and chromatically) different one. Caterpillar yellow maybe.
 

cucvrus

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DSCF4215.jpgNot sure if it is by coincidence. But today while out doing some cleaning up and routine parts organizing I came across the dreaded/controversial transfer case torque/strut Rod/brace. You know that cylindrical piece of round stock with 3 holes on it. The same one GM just put on the truck to add weight. And just like the one I have on Terminus M1009. Used to be someone scottlady that wanted to make them. Haven't seen or heard from him in a while. Anyone? Do tell? Happy Holidays. I found a few other things. Loads of thanks if you can identify and may find useful. DSCF4217.jpgDSCF4216.jpgAlso found one of these and I know what it is and will be stashing that in a safe place. DSCF4219.jpgDSCF4218.jpgI do know how hard and sought after these brackets are. Appears to have never been installed.
 

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Now I gotta believe they (New Process) spent that extra money tapping those holes in the side of the t-case for a real reason. Gotta think it's to help prevent breakage like this.

Now, for those of us with a real engineering background, you can see how the 205 cracked along the plane made by the stress risers induced from the drilled and tapped mounting holes. Stress induced by either a sudden shock load OR gradual over time. In either case, that right hand bar really does seem to fulfill a purpose.

OK, this should be enough said on this topic. The bars are included to reduce the dynamic loading on the transmission/t-case assembly and together increase the resistance to stress induced failures of the assembly. The "torque" being induced is NOT rotational around driveshaft rotation as has been posited (incorrectly), but instead being imparted from a rearward thrust that even marginally exceeds the range of motion of the driveshaft assembly, whether the full design limit or some dynamically induced (wear, corrosion, impact) limit. This induces a rotational moment in the t-case with the axis of rotation roughly vertical. Hence GM's term.

I just read through this whole thread...
:doh:

scottladdy said it best.

Back in the day, my 1980 Blazer (350/TH350/NP205) had this strut rod. At the time I was a tech at a chevy dealer and many K trucks coming through the shop had these braces.
205's, 203's, and 208's.

Did a few dealer installed snow-plow prep packages and these were included with the quad shocks retrofit.
In the literature explaining the kit features they mentioned its main purpose was to stabilize the end of the transfer case from fore and aft hits.

Without this bar, you were more likely to crack off the end of the case like in those photos.
Most often in plowing service which was common at that dealer.
Not a bad thing to have. Like a steering brace.
 
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