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ReubenJames: I'm thankful your department has another tool y'all can use. That MRAP might just save lives someday if it ends up in a firefight.
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Worked with Police when I was a volunteer fireman. The Swat truck they had never left the station outside of a parade roll. When out of the station on training runs, they found it created issues in the community-like lit up phones when it rolled.Well, we got 24 posts before someone brought their feelings into it. Guess this will go the route of so many other threads like it. Not a cop eh Pete? Why do you need a MK48?
When you are the one pinned down in front of a meth lab, I doubt that you will want to wait while someone calls the Governor to try to get the Guard activated to get you out.
Fixed it for you.Well, we got 24 posts before someone brought their feelings into it. Guess this will go the route of so many other threads like it. Not a cop eh Pete? Why do you need a MK48?
When you are the one pinned down in front of a meth lab, I doubt that you will want to wait while someone calls the Governor to try to get the Guard activated to get you out.
THAT is the same reason local agencies are seeking these trucks. Because they can. Remember, these are just hardened trucks. They are not issued with any type of weapons. They cost much less than a commercial armored vehicle for LEO use. For the most part, same uses as you describe, parades, displays and just in case something really bad happens, is whe they roll. I can't for the life of me comprehend why folks are against Law Enfrocement Agencies having a tool like this for the "What if" when it happens. Lets see, the truck can be scrapped, parked in a lot to rot or stored at a police agency with them maintaining it. Seems like a no brainer to me but others not so much.And there is one instance and reason for a vehicle like this. Thanks for responding in a technical way.
Almost forgot to add the other reason for my need of an MK48-because I can...unless a group in a Swat vehicle says I can't.
Pete
The big worry from many people is that most of the contracts between the states and the government clearly state that the equipment must have a current purpose and must be used as part of their "war on drugs". I know my state clearly stated that military equipment could not me acquired for a future possible event.THAT is the same reason local agencies are seeking these trucks. Because they can. Remember, these are just hardened trucks. They are not issued with any type of weapons. They cost much less than a commercial armored vehicle for LEO use. For the most part, same uses as you describe, parades, displays and just in case something really bad happens, is whe they roll. I can't for the life of me comprehend why folks are against Law Enfrocement Agencies having a tool like this for the "What if" when it happens. Lets see, the truck can be scrapped, parked in a lot to rot or stored at a police agency with them maintaining it. Seems like a no brainer to me but others not so much.
When I first started getting involved in MV's I was a little miffed on how the tax payer's money was being wasted on equipment not being used. My M944 had 2,000 miles. Then I realized the equipment was doing exactly what is supposed to do! Just having the stuff on hand is a deterrent. If we where using the equipment that meant we where at war. Is it possible that just having it is a deterrent? The initial cost and upkeep is probably not that much. If the agency doidn't go crazy with it. There is something to be said about community awareness like parades and strip mall stagings. I'm sure criminals go shopping and to parades.Thank God you didn't have to use it, yet!. One deployment, one life saved will pay for it and expences.Worked with Police when I was a volunteer fireman. The Swat truck they had never left the station outside of a parade roll. When out of the station on training runs, they found it created issues in the community-like lit up phones when it rolled.
My service as a fireman was in a community where the tallest structure was a two story blg. We had the biggest ladder truck in the county-one capable of handling a 5 story bldg. The only time we rolled here was for parade duty.
As far as my MK48-the only time she rolls is for volunteer duty. Things like VFW request's, Wounded Warrior request's and my work with "Beyond the Yellow Ribbon" group. Once in a while I roll her out for a spin, but only after I gas her up with my own funds.
Pete
Any pics?This weekend, I participated in the DeLand FL Veteran's Day Parade. The Volusia County Sheriff Department has a M113 with rubber tracks and a MRAP. It was cool to see both of them in the parade! It's too bad our entry in the parade was so far away from the MRAP. I'd have loved to poke my head inside that beast and see what it's like.
When I first started this thread I had some reservation because I knew that these vehicles can be controversial but I went ahead because I thought it was a neat vehicle and that most people, that don't have any current military experience, would like to see and hear information on it. We had a delay in getting it painted due to a all volunteer paint crew but I am told it is done and as soon as it returns I will get updated pics if this thread is still open.This thread is a post away from being closed if people can't keep the politics/zombie/tin foil hat stuff out of it.