DeeMan6996
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Well I just bought my first 1987 M923a1 with the NHC-250 From Saint Louis (575 Miles away) from Government Liquidation. (Was a pleasant experience besides all the bad I have heard about them) The auction said Will not start.
It didn't Say missing batteries or anything like that (If it did I would not have bought it) because the truck didn't come with batteries. Bit the bullet and headed down with tools and fluids on Monday 9/15. Got to the base and realized the truck had no batteries. Thats when I realized this could be bad...really bad. So I drove to the nearest Napa and bought two new batteries. I only bought two batteries because I won't be using the jumping port on the passenger side of the truck. So dropped the batteries in and turned the key. The truck started right up which was suprising but then I heard a noise....About 2ish gallons of water came shooting out of the exhaust pipe. I yelled as many curse words as a I could and turned the truck off as soon as i saw the water. I checked the dip stick and it was white as snow.. I couldn't believe it. I bit the bullet and I knew I lost. I checked the fuel and it was a full tank, and it didn't smell right So i took an old gatorade bottle and drained a little out of the tank. There was some black crap on the bottom of the bottle and maybe a little water but I couldn't tell.
The truck had to get off the lot 40 minutes after I first started it so I knew I had to drive this truck off the base as fast as I could so I don't spin a bearing or hurt anything else. She started right up again (Good ol Trusty NHC-250) and spit out some more water. Only one tires was a little low but I didn't have time to air it up. I got around a couple of corners and started to drive up a slight incline. She started loosing fuel pressure and it died. Luckily I had enough air pressure to set the parking brake. Now I'm reallying yelling and shouting some holy words. Took the fuel canister off quick and realized the tank wasn't supplying the fuel filter/canister. So I took the main fuel line off from the tank to the canister and blew as hard as I could. No fuel or air came out so I knew that there was a clog in there somewhere. With 10 minutes left the Government Liquidation rep and the Master sergeant (Both Ladies) came and asked why my truck was sitting in the middle of their road. I told them because you sold me a truck that you lied about and now I can't get it off the lot. They almost made me put it in neutral and roll it back down the hill and park it. The Government lady told me she couldn't come back tomorrow and I couldn't afford to take off another day of work. They had three pay-loaders, two M916's, 3 m35a3's, and 20ish m923's that they had sitting there so I asked them if those could pull this out. We had 500ish feet til the main gate. They almost told me no but after some convincing they got a pay-loader and two chains and pulled me out. I ran out of air pressure and almost rear ended the pay-loader 3 times
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They got me outside the gate and pretty much told me to go screw myself and I did the same. At that point I was so mad it wasn't even funny. Drained the oil. There were 13 gallons of the milky crap that came out and it only holds 7 gallons..Filled it back up with 7 gallons. Changed the Oil filter (Cleaned the Block as best as I could) and Fuel Filter. Dumped Fresh Diesel in the canister and closed it back up. Checked oil and was a little white but not bad so I dared to start it and again it started right up, let it run for about a minute and lost fuel pressure and it died. Checked the canister and there was nothing in it. After all this I got a repair service to come down and give me a second opinion on what I should do. We decided that the truck had been sitting for around 3-4 years. The Fuel tank was full and I couldn't drain it. I was listening to the government liquidation lady and the master sergant talk and she said only two other trucks sold. There were 20 trucks for sale on GL website and only 3 sold!? She was the one that "Bid" on all the others!? I was so pissed off. So I worked on the truck with my dad who came down with me for around 14ish hours and had nothing to show for it. We had to head home with no truck and its still sitting there but hopfully this weekend My uncle and I are heading down with a semi and lowboy to get this thing home so I can work on it at school. I am going to school for Truck and Diesel so I can work on it during school instead of my free time after work. It just sucks this was my first time ever trying this and I hope it isn't my last but this really brang me down. I wished this could have worked out 10x's better
So after all this what damage could be done too the engine? Like I said when I dropped the batteries in and started it, it started right, and I mean right up. But then yeah 2ish gallons of water came out. I Know the head gaskets need to be replaced but what else could be broken? When I drove the truck it was only like a 700 feet and it sounded like a healthy 250, it had that special "ring" in the engine like other 250's that I have heard. I'm praying that everything turns out ok and that most of the internals are ok but I can't say for sure. Thanks for all your help and I hope this boring story was worth your time!
It didn't Say missing batteries or anything like that (If it did I would not have bought it) because the truck didn't come with batteries. Bit the bullet and headed down with tools and fluids on Monday 9/15. Got to the base and realized the truck had no batteries. Thats when I realized this could be bad...really bad. So I drove to the nearest Napa and bought two new batteries. I only bought two batteries because I won't be using the jumping port on the passenger side of the truck. So dropped the batteries in and turned the key. The truck started right up which was suprising but then I heard a noise....About 2ish gallons of water came shooting out of the exhaust pipe. I yelled as many curse words as a I could and turned the truck off as soon as i saw the water. I checked the dip stick and it was white as snow.. I couldn't believe it. I bit the bullet and I knew I lost. I checked the fuel and it was a full tank, and it didn't smell right So i took an old gatorade bottle and drained a little out of the tank. There was some black crap on the bottom of the bottle and maybe a little water but I couldn't tell.
The truck had to get off the lot 40 minutes after I first started it so I knew I had to drive this truck off the base as fast as I could so I don't spin a bearing or hurt anything else. She started right up again (Good ol Trusty NHC-250) and spit out some more water. Only one tires was a little low but I didn't have time to air it up. I got around a couple of corners and started to drive up a slight incline. She started loosing fuel pressure and it died. Luckily I had enough air pressure to set the parking brake. Now I'm reallying yelling and shouting some holy words. Took the fuel canister off quick and realized the tank wasn't supplying the fuel filter/canister. So I took the main fuel line off from the tank to the canister and blew as hard as I could. No fuel or air came out so I knew that there was a clog in there somewhere. With 10 minutes left the Government Liquidation rep and the Master sergeant (Both Ladies) came and asked why my truck was sitting in the middle of their road. I told them because you sold me a truck that you lied about and now I can't get it off the lot. They almost made me put it in neutral and roll it back down the hill and park it. The Government lady told me she couldn't come back tomorrow and I couldn't afford to take off another day of work. They had three pay-loaders, two M916's, 3 m35a3's, and 20ish m923's that they had sitting there so I asked them if those could pull this out. We had 500ish feet til the main gate. They almost told me no but after some convincing they got a pay-loader and two chains and pulled me out. I ran out of air pressure and almost rear ended the pay-loader 3 times
.They got me outside the gate and pretty much told me to go screw myself and I did the same. At that point I was so mad it wasn't even funny. Drained the oil. There were 13 gallons of the milky crap that came out and it only holds 7 gallons..Filled it back up with 7 gallons. Changed the Oil filter (Cleaned the Block as best as I could) and Fuel Filter. Dumped Fresh Diesel in the canister and closed it back up. Checked oil and was a little white but not bad so I dared to start it and again it started right up, let it run for about a minute and lost fuel pressure and it died. Checked the canister and there was nothing in it. After all this I got a repair service to come down and give me a second opinion on what I should do. We decided that the truck had been sitting for around 3-4 years. The Fuel tank was full and I couldn't drain it. I was listening to the government liquidation lady and the master sergant talk and she said only two other trucks sold. There were 20 trucks for sale on GL website and only 3 sold!? She was the one that "Bid" on all the others!? I was so pissed off. So I worked on the truck with my dad who came down with me for around 14ish hours and had nothing to show for it. We had to head home with no truck and its still sitting there but hopfully this weekend My uncle and I are heading down with a semi and lowboy to get this thing home so I can work on it at school. I am going to school for Truck and Diesel so I can work on it during school instead of my free time after work. It just sucks this was my first time ever trying this and I hope it isn't my last but this really brang me down. I wished this could have worked out 10x's better
So after all this what damage could be done too the engine? Like I said when I dropped the batteries in and started it, it started right, and I mean right up. But then yeah 2ish gallons of water came out. I Know the head gaskets need to be replaced but what else could be broken? When I drove the truck it was only like a 700 feet and it sounded like a healthy 250, it had that special "ring" in the engine like other 250's that I have heard. I'm praying that everything turns out ok and that most of the internals are ok but I can't say for sure. Thanks for all your help and I hope this boring story was worth your time!
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