Sabatoge or Stupidity

[trooper632]

Ok, So I get the M1028a3 home, "Fluids Drained", So I fill the oil new oil filter, Water in radiator, Fill transmission fluid, 5 gallons diesel, batteries and after some playing with priming the fuel system get it started. Everything running good, go to shift it into drive and nothing, no reverse, nada. Fluid is full on the dipstick, crawl underneath notice its got only 5 transmission pan bolts in it. Ok so they drained it and didn't put the bolts back in, I tap on the the pan and its a "Thud" sound, not good. Remove drain plug it just drips out so I stick a screw driver inside and feels like a shop rag in there. I drop the pan and found these, WTH. Are these DRMO people stupid, lazy or just plain malicious, I don't understand it. Well I'm thinking the tranny is toast, checked all linkages so I called and priced a rebuilt turbo 400 taken out and installed for 1200.00, with a 12 month/12000 mile warranty guess that's where I'm going with it.

 

[mkcoen]

PM TexAndy. He just bought a batch of HMMWV trannies and some appear to be fresh rebuilds. Probably a lot cheaper than your quote. He's located in Beeville.

 

[fuzzytoaster]

That sucks.. I'm going to pick mine up tomorrow from Hood and hope there's no issues. The fluids are good in it but who knows.

 

[SETOYOTA]

The DRMO guys or GL would not do this. Most likely whoever had it and wanted it gone to get the new equipment.

 

[Stonepicker1]

Put a new filter on the trans an reinstall the pan. Fill it again with fluid. You might get lucky and not need a new transmission.

 

[Trailboss]

Those look like oil sorpant pads that someone put in the pan so there would be no residual drips from a drained tranny. After you removed these pads, did you try the tranny again? It may not have been ruined.




Edit - Stonepicker beat me by a minute.

 

[NDT]

Agreed with Stonepicker, a minute of running with no oil will not hurt it. There are Hood "fluid drained" horror stories, to include holes drilled in axle housings and pick axe holes in pans. This was done by a contractor who was supposed to prepare the trucks for scrapping.

 

[TexAndy]

Put a new filter on the trans an reinstall the pan. Fill it again with fluid. You might get lucky and not need a new transmission.

This.

But yeah, if it doesn't work and you do wind up needing a replacement, send me an PM. I'm about 3 hours from utopia.

 

[Jeepsinker]

I doubt the trans is hurt. TH400 is near bulletproof. But if you need a new one PM member TXfirefighter , I just dropped off a full takeout 1009 drivetrain with him and I don't think he needs the transmission.

 

[Crash_AF]

Yea, the two disposed parts 1009s I bought a few years back had punch holes in the bottom of the power steering pumps, the transmission pans, and the fuel tanks. All had either rags shoved in the holes, or the little plastic screw caps. Make sure you check all of those thoroughly before you get too far.

And it was probably done by the unit disposing of it as 'not running/scrap'. You can't turn in any scrap with POL in it.

I also recommend putting a filter on it, filling it back up, and seeing if it works. I'll bet the tranny is just fine, but your story is a good reminder for those picking up trucks to go over them with a fine tooth comb before attempting to drive it the first time unless they picked it up as 'starts and runs'.

 

[Carlo]

I agree with the others as in try adding a filter and fill the trans up to try it before buying a rebuilt.

 

[Skinny]

You got my vote

If someone didn't try driving it, your trans is probably 100% OK.

 

[Carlo]

Did you smell anything as in burnt oil?

 

[doghead]

Standard operating procedure, rather than sabotage or stupidity, is my guess.


Is the filter installed?

 

[trooper632]

I did put the fluid back in and tried it, wouldn't budge forward or reverse. I had the truck started and running for about 20-25 minutes before I found the rags in the tranny pan, but didn't smell anything hot or burnt. I also could not see a filter or where one would go when the pan was off. I have changed filters before on transmissions on fords and the filter was very obvious, but did not see it on the cucv.

 

[doghead]

I have changed filters before on transmissions on fords and the filter was very obvious, but did not see it on the cucv.

I would have looked at the -20P TM, to see what should be there rather than just bolt the pan back on.

If you had looked, you would see this;

 

[doghead]

So, maybe your pickup tube is missing.

I think we can rule out sabotage...

 

[rlltide12]

As stated, new filter, ensure the pickup tube is there and has O-rings on both ends, new bolts, and you are going to be hunky dory. Just did mine last weekend. Easy as pie. and all those parts are easy to come by minus the pickup tube and O-rings. A local tranny shop should have tons of those.

 

[trooper632]

Still wouldn't rule out sabotage, because the rags that were in there, as far as the filter, I know what they look like, wasn't in there. I'll pull off pan again and take a look

 

[trooper632]

Ok, looking at youtube on the turbo 400, It looks like I am missing the pickup tube and obviously the filter, Will be getting one and reporting back, thanks for the input guys