Stake Side Rail Fasteners????

[Nick54]

I have an M101A2 that I am rebuilding, starting with the wood. My question is how do I undo the fasteners that hold the rails to the hardware? For that matter what type of fasteners are they and where can I get them? Thanks for the help.

 

[Nick54]

So is this a question that no one here has an answer to, did I phrase it poorly, or was it alltogether a knucklehead question?

 

[goodguyzy]

well if it helps i will look this weekend when im back at the "compound" and see if i can give a answer

 

[jasonjc]

If you have what I think you have, I think they are Hi-loc rivets. I could have my trems wrong. Its like a bolt with no way to trun it and a nut that also has no way to trun it? The nut has a hex on it to start with but when you tighten it the hex part of the nut snaps off when its tight.

Or I may be wrong, if so not not lisen to me. I will try to look at one of mine tomorrow.

 

[Nick54]

If you have what I think you have, I think they are Hi-loc rivets. I could have my trems wrong. Its like a bolt with no way to trun it and a nut that also has no way to trun it? The nut has a hex on it to start with but when you tighten it the hex part of the nut snaps off when its tight.

Or I may be wrong, if so not not lisen to me. I will try to look at one of mine tomorrow.

This sounds like it. Do you know how to get them off without damaging the brackets? Where can I get replacements. I know I don't need to replace the original with original but I would like to is it's not to expensive.
Thanks Guys, I appreciate the help.

 

[hndrsonj]

Do a search for aviation tools. Hi-locks can't be removed without destroying the fastners. They have a nut on them that breaks off when the correct torque is reached. There is a special removal tool to take them off. (they aren't rivets)

 

[hndrsonj]

Hi-Lok Collar Removal Sockets

 

[jasonjc]

Well I just went and looked at mine. My sides are fiberglass. The things are not hi-locks. They seem to be some kind of rivet. They have a collar like a hi-lock but the shaft is not threaded, it has rings like threads. It seems that the shaft snaps off, not a nut on the collar. The collar will not unscrew. They will need to be drilled or ground off. Hears the best pic I could get of it.

 

[Nick54]

Man what the heck were they thinking, what's wrong with a carrage bolt and nut? Ya I know - if a toilet seat costs $800.00 they had to find a way to spend $450.00 for a fastener.

 

[lexluther]

I would just visit a local fastiner company? We have one called fastinal (sp?) Find a cost effective replacement and go with it.

 

[WillWagner]

Huck bolts. They are used on frame rails in a larger version.

Huck Huck-Spin (Small Diameter Huck Bolt)

Carrage bolts work great, but the fasteners that hold the bow storage brackets need to have these or the bow corner won't fit around the nut.

McMaster also sells them....they are way easier to order from!

http://www.mcmaster.com/#rivets/=bi27jc

 

[lexluther]

Will
What is the advangate of these over somthing more simple you could pick up at the local hardware store?

 

[mhb285]

I got this from Jim at Stephan Woods Products...

I got the attached file from Jim at Stephan Woods Products.
I'm looking to salvage some of the fiberglass boards on some M105 racks and e-mailed them. The reply is the attachment. Screws, washers & nylocks is what they now use on everything. This was just for the M105a2 trailer...
FYI.
Mike

 

[lexluther]

nylocks make alot more sense. Perhaps uncle sam used the torque limiting fastener to keep kids from over wrenching them, but anyone on here can prevent that. Nice avitar, MHB - where?

 

[WillWagner]

Will
What is the advangate of these over somthing more simple you could pick up at the local hardware store?

The only issue I see is that when the bows are stowed, the nut used in place of the rivit stuff hits the bow corner and the corner has to be forced into the pocket. I know this 'cause that's what the issue with mine is. On another note, I don't take the top off so I don't care how my stuff is assembled, just an observation and the OP asked where to get the rivits

 

[Nick54]

Hey guys I appreciate all the responses and I will chase down each option. Thanks again

 

[lexluther]

I dont take my top off eitther ...wow this could digress quickly, I hadnt thought of the clearance issue, I just thought there might be somthing to the torque limiting feature.
Thanks for the info...