tire bolts not coming off

[nf6x]

On my first deuce, there were a couple of lugs that I spent hours getting free. Plenty of hammering away with my 3/4" impact wrench, penetrating oil, banging with a sledge to break the rust, and so forth. It took a lot of work, but they eventually freed up. I also had one hub with the wrong kind of studs installed, so it's important to check for the L or R stamped onto the stud end (possibly buried under paint). I pulled that hub off and changed the studs to avoid future confusion.

 

[tie6044]

Just heat them up with a torch then hit them with the impact. Then when you re-install make sure you use anti-seize on them for easier future removals.

 

[robert c neth]

on a us 6 i have we chained the rim to a tree stump put the wrench on straight up and down and used a winch to loosten them.sometimes we put the wrench horizontal and use a jack.many ways to do this once you figure out what direction to go.

 

[wikallen]

Either get a bigger impact with 1/2" air supply, or get a bigger cheater pipe.

Get a 3/4 drive Tbar, bud socket, short extension, tall and short jackstands, and at least a 3 foot pipe to slip over the Tbar.

Use the jackstand to leverage against when trying to loosen the lugs.

 

[panshark]

hey tacticaldoc, can you post up a pic of your tools? That will help future thread-viewers understand what you're up against right now.

I second the bigger cheater pipe. If you get a 12-foot cheater bar, you will no doubt get those nuts loose.

Good luck, and remember that Bias belt tires play by a different set of rules than Radial tires.

 

[319]

Don't dink around, someone is gonna lose an eye! Take it to a truck shop and get it removed, repaired, and reinstalled. If your plans are to sell it then no need to keep buying heavy duty tools, wrench your back, bust an arm, or split your skull!
Just be sure to make the tire guys or gals aware of the LH threads.

 

[319]

PS Magazine on the Gear Wrench:

 

[RAYZER]

Just heat them up with a torch then hit them with the impact. Then when you re-install make sure you use anti-seize on them for easier future removals.

Applying heat to a rim by torch is very dangerous,the tire could exspload!

 

[ClintA]

If you heat them up, DON'T get them red hot (THE NUTS). If you don't have a torch use a hand held burner that will get them hot to the touch, pour water on tire if needed. You need to make shure your going the right way and a long cheater and don't weaken and extra person will help to hold the lug rinch in the correct place and against the rim. If you round them off, you will have H##L.

 

[RAYZER]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiLeji8bLOk&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/media]

 

[hemichallenger]

PM Sent



Im in Ocala 1 mile of I-75 (Exit 350)

Raineys is around the corner and will do anything you need done to your truck. Not sure why you can not find anyone in Ocala.
Also a tire shop on 326 just east of the pilot.

 

[tie6044]

That video is pretty cool to see how the heat transfers but heating lug nuts is producing no where near the heat of welding, especially welding at the bead. The tractor tires on my mud truck in my avatar had deuce centers welded in and we never even dismounted the tires. It was just the center, a little bigger than the stud pattern. I have even had old deuce lug nuts get stuck together when removing the outer dual and they stick with the rim. I torch them out and the rim doesn't even get hot near the tire. Just do it safely and like stated earlier, don't get them red hot!

 

[Recovry4x4]

I have a bigger impact wrench that I have to hold with 2 hands but I dont think its getting enough air. Seems kina weak

Simple fix, Air Pig. What I did was convert a portable air tank. Put a 1/2" tee on the tank and reattached the valve assy. From the tee I added 10' of 1/2" air hose and coupler for the big 1" impact. I hook up the glad hand line to the tank to fill it. Once filled it has the CFM to knock the lugs loose. Let it build back up and do it again. I can bring the air pig to the FL Rally this weekend if you want to cruise down to Groveland.

 

[goldwing2000]

Applying heat to a rim by torch is very dangerous,the tire could exspload!

Not if there's no air in it and you pull the valve core.

 

[Bob H]

I had one driver side front so tight. After the 1" impact failed (had 150' of hose out)
I used the issue budd lug wrench set up with a jack stand to support the outer end and a 10 foot pipe.
180lbs bouncing on the end of a 10 footer! 3 or 4 bounces each and they came undone with a pow!

Now those mobile truck tire repair guys! That's the ticket, make a call & write the check. Quick & easy.

 

[3dAngus]

Simple fix, Air Pig. What I did was convert a portable air tank. Put a 1/2" tee on the tank and reattached the valve assy. From the tee I added 10' of 1/2" air hose and coupler for the big 1" impact. I hook up the glad hand line to the tank to fill it. Once filled it has the CFM to knock the lugs loose. Let it build back up and do it again. I can bring the air pig to the FL Rally this weekend if you want to cruise down to Groveland.

Recovery,
What size is that portable air tank? You got any pictures of your setup. I think I would like to duplicate that, but not sure how large of a tank I need. I have a friend here who bought about 50 airtanks from a HEMMT or something, and they might work. Oval shaped, and if stood upright they might go 4 foot high, but are narrow and rated for 150psi. Almost looks like a acetyln tank upright without the cart. I might just use my M1061 air tank if you think it would be large enough of a reservoir.

 

[goodguyzy]

I use a turbo torch on the nut for about a minute then hit with a 3/4 gun. works every time.

 

[TacticalDoc]

Raineys is around the corner and will do anything you need done to your truck. Not sure why you can not find anyone in Ocala.
Also a tire shop on 326 just east of the pilot.

Called them ... they dont work on them

 

[deathrowdave]

I had to take mine to work . They have a KENT - MOORE tool that looks like a large dog bone . You can attach part of the tool to the lug nut and support it with a jack stand and the Dog Bone cross arm can be hit with a sledge hammer to remove the lug nut. Expensive tool but it will work. We used 1 " impact gun that is for removing truck lug nuts , would not budge them !!! I would not use anti-seize on lug nuts . Have used it many a year on everything mechanical but not lug nuts. It has a tendency to dry out in that usage and clog threads in future removals. I do use a water proof grease for this and have not had anymore problems. What ever you use to lube the threads with is up to you just be sure to lube first !!!! I can now remove with a standard truck lug wrench . Just be safe and think easy to break an arm or loose a finger with that much torque required to loosen them !!!

 

[Shawn MacAnanny]

I use my Gear reduction to loosen stubborn lug nuts. It works every time! You cab get them though ebay. They even come with the sockets you need.

I had never heard of this but man that tool is amazing. i just ordered one because i dont own a 1" impact or any sockets to fit these wheels. its just cheaper than buying a cheap impant and sockets anyway and ive had plenty of impacts that wouldnt even budge bolts.

On a side note, what should these wheel lugs be torqued back down to?

Is it ok to put anti seize on them?