Kenny, I have always like the M809 series of trucks. I was out of them for a little while, but I can't pass up a good deal! The M814s are close in condition to the rebuilt M818s that have been coming out recently like ARMADA's M818...except that both of my trucks have a couple of DRMO war wounds. Interestingly, the dents were NOT there in the GL site pictures. Fortunately, they are not that bad and can be fixed...just more hassle than anything. The trucks look like they were both rebuilt and, then, just sat. I got underneath one and EVERYTHING is either new or rebuilt from the motor back...not a single drip, drop or weep to be seen. The motor oil has been drained and I hope the motors are fine. Short of that, they are two of the nicest trucks that I've gotten.