Trailer load

[nico1277]

NSN is the 13 digit number beginning with 2320..

The 1GC number is the VIN. NG1 is registration. 5900, 2900 and 8800 are weights unloaded, max load and max gross .

Thank you, then Guy should be able to use the number on the plate.

 

[Guyfang]

Thats what we do here.

Go to another TÜV.

 

[nico1277]

Go to another TÜV.

ok.

 

[Guyfang]

Hello Guy,
thank you very much, but I think for the beginning I understood the system with the weights. In another thread someone asked about the towing capacity total. There it was said that the full size truck can pull 6500 pounds, in the military TM.
"you can tow a full size truck (6K) no problem with just about any full size truck. The military rating is 6500 pounds." It was posted by Westech in 2010.
Do you know where it says that?
I need as much info as possible to convince the inspector.

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TM 9-2320-289-10, Page 2-57, Para. 2-14, sub para. a, (PDF page # 96.

FA1008, M1008A1, M1028, M1028A1, M1028A2, and M1028A3, Equipped to tow
M101 Series 3/4 ton trailers with maximum towed load of 3100 Ibs. Load on tongue
should not exceed 300 Ibs.

 

[Keith_J]

Page 2-57 of the -10 TM specifies maximum trailer weight of 3100 pounds and tongue weight of 300 pounds with an M101 trailer. This trailer is the A1 variant with hydraulic surge brakes.

As long as the hitch is the stock pintle hook type, the TUV inspector must approve as the TM was written from the manufacturer's technical specification with the contract modifications to the stock vehicle.

Download TM 9-2320-289-10, get it printed and bound in a 3 ring. Have the front and back covers printed on manilla card stock, it will be as close to original as possible.

 

[Guyfang]

Page 2-57 of the -10 TM specifies maximum trailer weight of 3100 pounds and tongue weight of 300 pounds with an M101 trailer. This trailer is the A1 variant with hydraulic surge brakes.

As long as the hitch is the stock pintle hook type, the TUV inspector must approve as the TM was written from the manufacturer's technical specification with the contract modifications to the stock vehicle.

Download TM 9-2320-289-10, get it printed and bound in a 3 ring. Have the front and back covers printed on manilla card stock, it will be as close to original as possible.

Great minds think alike.

 

[Keith_J]

Great minds think alike.

To the minute too..

 

[nico1277]

Page 2-57 of the -10 TM specifies maximum trailer weight of 3100 pounds and tongue weight of 300 pounds with an M101 trailer. This trailer is the A1 variant with hydraulic surge brakes.

As long as the hitch is the stock pintle hook type, the TUV inspector must approve as the TM was written from the manufacturer's technical specification with the contract modifications to the stock vehicle.

Download TM 9-2320-289-10, get it printed and bound in a 3 ring. Have the front and back covers printed on manilla card stock, it will be as close to original as possible.

If it would be so simple and logical, the original pintle hook type has no CE mark or similar, for the TÜV inspector a no go, no registration possible, no matter what is written in American papers.
I can only use the TM to convince him that the M1008 is allowed to pull a trailer.
In Germany most m1008 have 7700 lbs braked and 1650 lbs unbraked registered as towing capacity. Unfortunately, it has been forgotten at my time and now the rules are so crazy that nothing goes.

 

[Guyfang]

If it would be so simple and logical, the original pintle hook type has no CE mark or similar, for the TÜV inspector a no go, no registration possible, no matter what is written in American papers.

As long as the hitch is the stock pintle hook type, the TUV inspector must approve as the TM was written from the manufacturer's technical specification with the contract modifications to the stock vehicle.

Well.............................................................. No. The TÜV inspector is not required to accept anything without a CE mark, and he is not required to accept any document from a foreign land. He CAN, do so, but is not required. We assembled every document known to man, for my sons Drag Star. To no avail. This model was even sold here in Germany, with another name. But the same bike as was sold in the states. "This data means nothing to me. It is not in our catalog of vehicles, with German inspection." And you have no other recorse other then to submit you vehicle to be tested. And you better have BIG pockets to pay for it.

 

[nico1277]

If it would be so simple and logical, the original pintle hook type has no CE mark or similar, for the TÜV inspector a no go, no registration possible, no matter what is written in American papers.

As long as the hitch is the stock pintle hook type, the TUV inspector must approve as the TM was written from the manufacturer's technical specification with the contract modifications to the stock vehicle.

Well.............................................................. No. The TÜV inspector is not required to accept anything without a CE mark, and he is not required to accept any document from a foreign land. He CAN, do so, but is not required. We assembled every document known to man, for my sons Drag Star. To no avail. This model was even sold here in Germany, with another name. But the same bike as was sold in the states. "This data means nothing to me. It is not in our catalog of vehicles, with German inspection." And you have no other recorse other then to submit you vehicle to be tested. And you better have BIG pockets to pay for it.

Yes so it is unfortunately, the old inspectors could still read and think, the young can only read. We'll see what happens next week, now I found today a German description of the K30, where also the permissible trailer load capcity is described. let's see how it all goes out.

 

[MarcusOReallyus]

Yes so it is unfortunately, the old inspectors could still read and think, the young can only read.

Yes, and because they can read, they believe they can think.

This disease is not limited to Germany.

 

[Mullaney]

Yes, and because they can read, they believe they can think.

This disease is not limited to Germany.

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Agreed! Stupidity isn't restricted to one country or another. Same here in North Carolina. I have had experiences in one location that made me want to strangle somebody. Get in the vehicle, ride a few miles to another county - and suddenly the problem is NOT a problem.

Definitely go try some other location with the ability to do what you need.

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[nico1277]

Hello from Germany,
I was this week with all the Unterlagen( TM's, German description of the K30, decryption of the Vin, etc) again at the TÜV, result nothing.
No registration.
He wants a letter from GM confirming the towing capacity of the m 1008 with my VIN on it.
Can anyone tell me who to contact at GM?
Or does anyone have a GM representative who can and wants to write such a letter.
It just has to say VIN number XXXXXXXXXXX is rated for 7700 lbs braked and 1650 lbs unbraked with appropriate trailer hitch.
The whole thing on GM paper and with signature and stamp.
Now I have asked another inspector, he wants to look at the thing in the next two weeks.