Transmission // Clutch slip

[Vfflang]

On the way home my clutch started slipping.

My question is if you over filled the transmission would it cause the clutch to slip?

When I got the truck the Trans and transfer were overfilled bad. Try to get all the fluid out but its at the fill plug at both.

 

[Nonotagain]

Check the volume of transmission oil, one knuckle low should be good.

Brake cleaner is your friend. Hose the clutch down real good, push pedal in a couple of times and repeat the cleaning operation. Also flush the bell housing out.

If the friction material is totally gooped, a clutch will be in your future.

 

[Vfflang]

Check the volume of transmission oil, one knuckle low should be good.

Brake cleaner is your friend. Hose the clutch down real good, push pedal in a couple of times and repeat the cleaning operation. Also flush the bell housing out.

If the friction material is totally gooped, a clutch will be in your future.

How do you flush out the bell housing out. is there an access panel or do I have to pull the trans?

 

[DieselBob]

On the bottom of the bell housing there is a rectangular plate that has I think 6 bolts you remove. This will give you access to spray the clutch and inside the bell housing. Good time to grease the throwout bearing.

 

[LowTech]

We had loads of experience w/ that when we took Elise's M109 up the eastern sierras last summer.

We started w/ a fairly new, to us, tranny. Couldn't get it to stop puking out the bellhousing. Ended up pulling the tranny right before the trip and finding that the oil return hole on the front had been plugged w/ some permatex from over use by the prev mechanic. Cleaned the hole out, and left a few days later.
First day was couple hundred miles at 2400. The tranny was hot enough to expand the oil and anything over it's desired fill level was pushed out through the bellhousing.
Elise was learning to drive the truck, climbing mountains, and the clutch would start slipping. We'd find a place to pull over, I'd roll under the truck w/ a can of brake cleaner (carried two, or three at all time) and spay it up though the drain hole (w/ a sheet of cardboard on the ground). She would work the clutch a few times, and off we'd go.
After a few days of driving the fluid level was at the desired level (for this tranny), and the clutch quit slipping.

Elise has now driven the "She Beast" over 3000 miles in the last year, about half on dirt tracks, and has become one He!! of a driver.

 

[Vfflang]

pulled the access plate off today and sprayed brake cleaner up there about 1 and half cans.

are the throw bearing in that access plate to gease or are there somewhere else ?

I took it for a drive right after and slipping got worse(alot of rpm not alot of movenment ) then better( less sliping better top end speeds in low gears) as I contiune to drive.

 

[General Mcgregor]

The grease point for the bearing is on the bearing itself, (inside the opening on the shaft). It usually requires a grease gun with a rigid tube to seat correctly but you may be able to do it with a flexible hose, just more of a pain.

 

[paulfarber]

Check your clutch pedal free play. IIRC it should be an inch.. TM will have the exact number.

You should smell the clutch lining burn if its slipping... unless its all gone then you will hear metal on metal.

 

[Vfflang]

Check your clutch pedal free play. IIRC it should be an inch.. TM will have the exact number.

You should smell the clutch lining burn if its slipping... unless its all gone then you will hear metal on metal.

I got an inch of play... No smells that I can tell but metal on metal not sure if it is.. I know if I don't get on the gas right away it won't slip

 

[SMOKEWAGON66]

...i found this thread very informative. Last weekend, after putting the new bed on, i took it for a spin. The clutch slipped coming up an incline to the main road from a stop. I took the inspection cover off and the zerk for the throw out fell out. I put that back in and hit it with a little grease. when i started it up again, there was this god-awful chirping-grinding noise in the bellhousing that stopped with the clutch depressed. So im thinking the throw out is on its way out. So im planning on yanking the tranny out this weekend and pulling the clutch because i think the disk got soaked with oil. If it can be salvaged then so be it, if not, at last the tranny will be out so i can replace the disk, pressure plate, and the throw out...any comments? advice? PM me please.

 

[swbradley1]

Put a new rear-main seal in the engine while you have it apart.

 

[SMOKEWAGON66]

Put a new rear-main seal in the engine while you have it apart.

Great idea....

I was reading my -20 this morning on Tranny removal and there was a fig. that showed a small A-frame winch used to lower the tranny to the ground. It rested on the floor of the cab with the seats and floor panels removed. GENIOUS! i think im gonna build one and ill post pics/results when i get it done...

 

[davey8943]

... fig. that showed a small A-frame winch used to lower the tranny to the ground. It rested on the floor of the cab with the seats and floor panels removed....

Check this one out ...

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/60303-yet-another-transmission-replacement-thread.html#post707391

You want to talk about genious! General McGregor is a RED NECK engineering master!

Dave

 

[General Mcgregor]

Check this one out ...

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/deuce/60303-yet-another-transmission-replacement-thread.html#post707391

You want to talk about genious! General McGregor is a RED NECK engineering master!

Dave

Can we get a "take a bow" smiley? I need one!

Thanks dave, but that thread would be nothing without the contributions of others. I just implemented ideas and proceedures I found right here on SS. Yet another reason why this site rocks!
-GM

 

[Vfflang]

Are the fingers on the pressure plate suppose to go in when you tighten the pressure down

 

[Vfflang]

Does any one know about the finger on the pressure plate can't seem to find the answer ....zero bars on the I phone makes it interesting

 

[Bob H]

While I've yet to mess with a deuce's clutch.
Yes there should be should be tension on the disk, exhibited by the fingers moving down as it is tightened.
There should be clearance between the fingers and throw out bearing

 

[Vfflang]

Must not of tight one down good enough one is still sticking up

 

[DieselBob]

If it helps any the 8 bolts that hold the pressure plate to the flywheel should be torqued to 23 ~ 27 lb-ft according to TM9-2320-361-34.

 

[rolling18]

On the bottom of the bell housing there is a rectangular plate that has I think 6 bolts you remove. This will give you access to spray the clutch and inside the bell housing. Good time to grease the throwout bearing.

very very informative thread!! but i got a weird question maybe you can help with??

when I took that plate off there was lots of oil dripping in adition there was this part that fell out.. can anyone ID it?
AND where exactly do i aim the break cleaner to clean?
thanks!