Trip images (Seabee stuff)

[cranetruck]

This is mainly for Kenny again, also I got you a camo shirt with "Seabee" embossed, never seen one like it before. It'll be in the mail later today.

 

[WillWagner]

How come the Navy trucks have that bracket from the window hinge to the fender? Those fenders are pretty stout, wouldn't think they'd need xtra support.

 

[cranetruck]

Detail pic of the shirt I'm sending you, Kenny.

 

[FrankUSMC]

I will bet you the shirt was done while the SEEBEE was on Okanawa (Japan). That was very commom to have done to our uniforms while on "the rock". Down side was, you could no longer were the uniform while on duty, as they had an iron on stecil. Mommason could saw just about any thing.
One of the few, Frank

 

[Recovry4x4]

Wow Bjorn, thanks. I've got a few of the shirts with the patch but not embroidered. Pics are wonderful. WillWagner, the brackets are more to deflect brush than anything. I'm just hoping like the dickens that I didn't throw the ones away off the pipeline but I'm betting I did. Anyone know Seabee truck numbering. I've heard the first 2 numbers denote what type of truck/machine it is. Would love to see what number is on a wrecker.
Here's a pic of the old pipeline where you can see both brackets. By the time the truck got from this pic to me, the engine, tranny, winch and front axle had been removed.

 

[JDToumanian]

I got a close-up pic of the seabees logo from the same truck that Bjorn posted. As for the pics of the 108, Bjorns turned out much better.

Jon

 

[hndrsonj]

I would be curious to see a picture of the bumper markings if anyone had them for the seabee trucks.

 

[cranetruck]

Checked my pictures and there were no images of the bumpers...
guess that's what makes this hobby a "sport", we are never done.

 

[Recovry4x4]

Bumpers usually just say US Navy or USN. Numbers are on the doors. There is a BEEP sticker on the back and sometimes the front which is an elogated diamond shape with the NMCB unit numers in it like 14 for NMCB14

 

[TacticalTruck]

Fender straps and chains were also there to keep the fenders on, especially five tonners with the air cleaner on the fender. Many Vietnam truckers did this because they did so many miles on rough roads the fenders would rattle and crack off.
Jeff

 

[amanco]

SeaBee logo on the pocket

All of my uniforms had the embroidered logos on the pockets. This was ordered up right at the uniform shop on base. You got the pockets embroidered and the US Navy cloth strip above the right pocket and your name cloth strip above the left pocket. Rarely did you see an iron on patch or sewn on patch. That was the cheap route and didn't look any where near as good as the embroidered logo. You never stood inspection with iron on logos. Also a quick photo of a tractor with SeaBee logos http://www.miamivalleysteamshow.org/temp/tractor2.JPG

 

[Boatcarpenter]

Right and left stencil

After viewing the above pics again I noticed that the same stencil is used on both sides of the truck. The"bees" weapon is pointing forward on the drivers side of the truck and rearward on the passenger side. When I got my stencils from Rick Larson I got a left and a right as shown below. Not sure what is proper.

 

[Recovry4x4]

RE: Right and left stencil

My pipeline was the same as yours. Same stencil, both sides. I too have a pair of the stencils from Rick and it has a right and left. Dunno what I'll do though.

 

[cbvet]

RE: Right and left stencil

While the nice crisp stencil jobs do look nice, that's not how they were typically done during VietNam.
We used 1 quick pass with a spray can, leaving the image kind of translucent. Like in the picture JDToumanian posted.
I'll see if I have any pics of front bumper markings.
Eric

 

[Brad900]

My truck the bees are shooting forward on both sides. The paint is not crisp like they hit it with spray paint, this is how I got it from the navy.So I would say to point them toward the front
Brad

 

[southdave]

Re: [MV] Deuce Color?
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We have a 1987 Dodge minivan painted at the factory shiny OD (made in
Canada1); US Navy serial number still on the doors and the tailgate;
Battalion numbers on the bumpers and the yellow seabee stencil on the front
doors below the vehicle numbers. Has anyone ever seen another?
Cheers!
Ian
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> Howdy Kenny,
>
> Hope that things are well for you and yours down there in FL... I am still
> eternally grateful for the CUCV -10 manual PDF that you were so kind as to
> email me many moons ago.
>
> For the time period that I was in the Seabees (1985-1993), ALL of our
> vehicles in NMCB 5, RNMCB 15, NMCB 24 were painted the Vietnam era gloss /
> semi-gloss dark OD Marine Corps color with yellow Seabee stencil and
> serial
> number below it on the doors, horizontally-oriented red diamond-shaped
> sticker with white battalion no. on front bumper passenger's side, rear
> bumperette driver's side (called a "beep" sticker, if I recall correctly).
>
> The vast majority of our rolling stock appeared to have last been painted
> during the Vietnam era, as well. They were horrendously oxidized with the
> gloss long gone. We quite frequently went and got trucks from the DRMS
> that
> the Marines had driven until they were untenable to repair after they
> having
> got them from the Army when they had oulived the Army's usefulness, and we
> would make a truck from 2 or 3 DRMS hulks. SOP.
>
> The vehicle serial number was sometimes alternately painted in black, but
> the Seabee stencil was, with only one exception, invariably
> yellow.(Exception: in Operation Desert Storm, all our vehs were
> overpainted
> on the exterior with Sand CARC, all lettering and stencil was black, all
> matte finish. Interior was still dark OD.) Also, when the CUCV era began,
> some had matte black stencil and numbers on the doors.
>
> The front bumper tips on all M35s and 5-tonners, outboard 12" or so were
> also painted yellow, with an approximately 24-36" piece of re-bar welded
> vertically to each one for corner identification when manuevering in tight
> quarters. Most often, they had orange re-bar caps used on the tips of the
> re-bar to prevent / reduce accidental impalement to hung-over Seabees
> doing
> their morning vehicle inspection / prestart. With or without the
> safety
> orange re-bar caps on the corner markers, the top 6-12" of the re-bar was
> painted yellow as well.
>
> M715-series vehs, as I recall, had the corner re-bar markers as well. M880
> series did not, nor did our CUCVs when they came along later in my tour.
> When they started to arrive and replace the M715 series (called "weaps"
> regardless of configuration except for ambulances), our CUCVs were
> delivered
> in 383 CARC, some were left that way, with matte black stencil and serial
> numbers, many were subsequently painted the USMC dark OD later, yellow
> Seabee stencil and serial number. Yellow tow shackles and bumper tips
> applied as well.
>
> Front and rear towing shackles on all vehs were always painted the same
> yellow color, as were rear bumperettes on the M-series quite often...
>
> During my stay in the KTO, we somehow inherited (heh,heh) many HMMVs,
> which
> grew artifically-weathered Seabee stencils and "serial numbers"overnight,
> though they were not at all a part of our TOA . Hope the statute of
> limitations permits me to reveal that... lol. After the hostilities
> ceased,
> the Marine MPs came by, checked the serial numbers, and retrieved the
> HMMVs.
> They seemed, to me, strangely accusatory, but in the end, no one was
> arrested.
>
> Remember the huge Iraqi supply convoy that our flyboys caught out on the
> open road, bombed both ends of to prevent escape, then bombed to
> smithereens
> like sitting ducks? Well, there were scads of nice Mercedes diesel cabover
> cargo trucks, replete with AC and all. Strangest thing, within a few days,
> (nights, actually) , we had a fleet of Sand CARC Mercedes with black
> Seabee stencils and "serial numbers" on the doors. It took us about 3-4
> bombed Mercedes to make one useable truck. Whole lotta night runs with
> deuce
> tractors pulling a lowboy trailer and a RT forklift for loading. They
> remained with us until we left for CONUS, don't know of their eventual
> fate.
>
> One ABSOLUTELY mandatory accesory for ANY Seabee vehicle is a set of wheel
> chocks, 4X4" for lighter vehicles, 6X6" for deuces and up. Gloss yellow,
> sometimes with red tips, hemp rope connecting the wood pieces. This was a
> BIG thing with the Bees; failure to place your chocks if you left the veh
> for even a nanosecond, or failure to remove them when driving off from a
> parked position resulted in the offender wearing the chocks around their
> neck all day long, a most unpleasant reminder of their transgression, both
> physically, and for all the harrassment and ridicule one received from
> fellow Seabees.
>
> On deuces, the chocks were most often hung from the tarp tiedown loop on
> the
> driver's side directly behind the cab while in motion... on deuce and
> 5-ton
> dump trucks, they were hung from the tailgate lever located in a similar
> area.
>
> Hmm, let's see... what else?? Oh, yeah: on all gas-powered vehs, located
> in
> the fuel filler area or on the fuel tank on our older deuces,(Yup we had
> gas
> deuces still yellow stencilling proclaimed MOGAS or MOGAS ONLY, same
> same for DIESEL or DIESEL ONLY on the appropriate vehs.
>
> Well, sorry for rambling, hope that this info is useful to you in what
> appears to be a quest to restore an M35 as a Seabee truck. I am honored
> that
> you remember us by doing this; few people even realize that we ever
> existed,
> much less what we contributed to the war efforts for the past nearly 60
> years.
>
> Please send me pics as the project develops, or post them where I can
> enjoy
> them, if you would be so kind. It would mean a lot to me.
>
> I would be glad to clarify or elaborate on any of this info if you wish,
> but
> I seem to already have made this novel-length, so I will sign off for now
> and waste no more of your weekend.
>
> My very best regards to you and yours,
>
> T. "Bones" Morris
> recovering BU2, USNMCB5, 15, & 24
> "Seabees Can Do!"
> Subject: [MV] Deuce Color?
>
>
>> Does anybody lurking out there in cyberspace happen to know the correct
> color
>> used on Seabee trucks. Its dark, but not exactly sure what the numbers
> are.
>> Thanks,
>> Kenny
>
>
>
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[beaubeau]

I got to agree with Tacticaltruck on the fender straps. While in V.N., I remember Welding the fenders because they would crack on the edge because of rough roads, heavy loads and the weight of the Air Cleaner on the fender. One more problen I rember was the Flange on the Exhaust pipe at the Turbo would break. Phil

 

[southdave]

Yeah we drove like we stole it, because we usally did

 

[hndrsonj]

Somewhere, I've seen the chart that shows what the first two numbers are for the seabee trucks. By looking at threads I've seen several different numbers on deuces (which isn't right). I am trying to find the chart and specifically the 2 numbers for a M35 and M37. Anyone have an idea where it's at?

 

[Recovry4x4]

I can help. 94 for the M37 and 95 for the deuce. Want more than my word? Go to the TM section and save this to your computer. http://old.steelsoldiers.com/index.php?module=pagesetter&type=file&func=get&tid=1&fid=file&pid=173
It's NAVFAC P-300