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What have you done to your MTVR today?

simp5782

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Worried about breaking down so much you are going to leave it as a permanent fixture.

Won't last long anyway those straps are known to break and you will be the rhino on the highway with its face buried in the asphalt
 
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simp5782

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Thanks for the support Wes.
Well I could tell you that the first bump you hit that is bad and at speed is going to smash that hood. Cause its going to flip back and there is nothing to stop it. Unless you can secure it vertical and to something like @Artisan did on his 916.

Or some stupid person will cut the strap while in a parking lot.

The days of using a towbar a fair amount are gone years ago some of us kept them stored in readily accessible spots but that was for recovering the 2 or 3 or 6 trucks we had bought in the auction to run and just drag em off. Not the case anymore as noone is buying trucks for those I prices and recovery options are different. Best to find a location on the truck that its accessible, mount it securely and leave it there till needed.
 

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I finally had time to mount the period-correct tow bar.

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Jon ,

Allow me to interject here for your safety and others bro.

That is an 80,000 lb rated towbar if I remember right. It is a BEAST!
I can not safely lower it nor raise it alone and I am a pretty big boy.
It is really heavy. Your strap WILL FAIL! Plus it will bounce and you
do not need those problems.
I use no less than TWO independant chains to support mine in the
stowed posistion and it is solid in said. ALSO, I think I see you are
missing 50% of the required pins! That unit came new w/ SEVEN
pins of which you can see all of them on my unit.

If you look at the plate I made to chain to you see a pulley. Some day when
I am really bored I have a winch to raise and lower that bad boy so I can
self recover w/ my 5 ton alone if necessary.

Sure that looks cool but bro... It's not safe my man.

Take that bad boy to a local fab shop and have them weld up a proper
winch bumper w/ tow eyes all set up to stow that towbar vertical perhaps.
I took some pics of mine for you...
 

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I drove my 7 Ton out to the desert to get the tranny warmed up after changing the fluid. I wanted to get the transmission above 160 so I could be sure that the fluid was travelling through the cooler.

 

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I found out what the access hatch behind the cab is for.

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I was going through and greasing everything and I could not get to the output shaft that goes into the transfer case. So I noticed that there was a panel right above the shaft so I took it off. This photo is looking down from behind the cab where I removed the panel.

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BTW, you can see the remnants of one of the red zerk caps near the bottom of the photo. The Marines use red ones. I have seen a couple on my truck and I have seen several on other MTVRs. I use the yellow color and I find it very helpful to keep track of which zerks I have greased already.
 

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How many are there? I haven't even begun to count...
MTVR, I have counted 37 so far. Which is strange because I watched the video from the Marines about greasing and they did not seem to find that many. I guess I should watch the video again and count this time. Ha!
 

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I pulled my driver's seat. I was going to replace the air switch on the seat but when I looked underneath the seat, there are just 4 nuts holding it on. Well, in my case it was 3 because one was MIA. So I pulled it to see why it would not adjust forward and back. My wife has trouble driving the 7 Ton because she is short and the seat was stuck all the way back. I hope I can fix it so she can adjust it.

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You don't need to pull the seat to replace the seat air switch- it doesn't even take any tools to do it.
 

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Success! The seat moves forward and back now and my wife is happy.

Also, thanks to Elijah95 for the tip about the seat height switch. Switching the hoses worked.
 

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Jon ,

Allow me to interject here for your safety and others bro.

That is an 80,000 lb rated towbar if I remember right. It is a BEAST!
I can not safely lower it nor raise it alone and I am a pretty big boy.
It is really heavy. Your strap WILL FAIL! Plus it will bounce and you
do not need those problems.
I use no less than TWO independant chains to support mine in the
stowed posistion and it is solid in said. ALSO, I think I see you are
missing 50% of the required pins! That unit came new w/ SEVEN
pins of which you can see all of them on my unit.

If you look at the plate I made to chain to you see a pulley. Some day when
I am really bored I have a winch to raise and lower that bad boy so I can
self recover w/ my 5 ton alone if necessary.

Sure that looks cool but bro... It's not safe my man.

Take that bad boy to a local fab shop and have them weld up a proper
winch bumper w/ tow eyes all set up to stow that towbar vertical perhaps.
I took some pics of mine for you...
Artisan,

I found your post very condescending. Your attitude seems to be that you are right and I am wrong even though you know nothing about me, the situation, and did not ask me any questions. I am surprised that SS allows bulling like that.

"That is an 80,000 lb rated towbar if I remember right. It is a BEAST!"

You were close, the weight rating is actually 83,000 pounds as denoted by the data plate on the tow bar. You mention it is a beast like I do not have any experience with it. Why do you think I don’t know? Did you see that I mounted it to my truck? You act like I do not know how heavy it is and only you know how heavy it is.

"I can not safely lower it nor raise it alone and I am a pretty big boy.
It is really heavy."

Again, you mention that it is heavy like I have never seen one before. What is the point you are trying to make – that I am a weakling compared to you? Have you ever met me? How do you know I am weak? Do you make that assumption about everyone?

"Your strap WILL FAIL! Plus it will bounce and you
do not need those problems."

Yes, the strap will fail. The transmission will fail, the engine will fail, the brakes will fail, actually, everything on the truck will fail at some point. At some point, your chains will fail. Do I need to point that out to you? I am not a newbie and I have quite a bit of experience with tow bars and the MTVR. Why do you think that you know more than I do? That is a very bad assumption. Think of what kind of people would automatically assume that everyone is stupider than they are – that they are superior to everyone.

Many things on this truck are dangerous and everyone should know that – I hope you do. If you want to be 100% safe driving down the road then do not drive a MV.

It is up to the operator of the truck to ensure that it is safe. I do many things to insure that. Things you do not know and did not ask about. The photos did not depict my truck as ready to drive and I never said it was. So you, again, assumed that I was driving that. Interesting that you did not bother to ask.

I do an inspection every time before I drive and one of the many things I check is the tow bar. Of course, it is important to check many other things also because there are many things on a MV that could go wrong and injury people.

One example would be driving on a freeway with a bus of school kids following you. The engine locks up, or the transmission fails, or an axle binds and the MV skids to a stop on the freeway. The school bus crashes into the rear end of the MV. Again, it is up to the operator to insure the MV is safe.

"I use no less than TWO independant chains to support mine in the
stowed posistion and it is solid in said. ALSO, I think I see you are
missing 50% of the required pins! That unit came new w/ SEVEN
pins of which you can see all of them on my unit."

As I mentioned, I never said the photos depicted the truck ready to drive. Yes, I could add two more pins and I have them. The extra pins are not critical unless you are towing something.

"If you look at the plate I made to chain to you see a pulley. Some day when
I am really bored I have a winch to raise and lower that bad boy so I can
self recover w/ my 5 ton alone if necessary."

Interesting. I do not use a pulley to raise and lower mine and I have no issues at all. I recently did it all by myself, safely, and it took just 15 minutes to completely remove the tow bar.

"Sure that looks cool but bro... It's not safe my man."

That’s your opinion and it is not based on any knowledge on your part of me, my expertise, my process, or my safety plan. I guess you are basing everything on two photos that represented an early stage of my work.

"Take that bad boy to a local fab shop and have them weld up a proper
winch bumper w/ tow eyes all set up to stow that towbar vertical perhaps.
I took some pics of mine for you..."

Thanks.

If you were really trying to help, you would have taken a different approach in your post. It seems like you just wanted to belittle me and try to show how much more intelligent you are than everybody else.

Jon
 

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I drove to the desert again to warm up the transmission and see if dumping some Seafoam Trans tune in will help with the transmission shifting.

When I got back I thought I would check all the temps and then record them for others to check out. I am not saying these are normal but some people may find them interesting. I used a handheld non contact laser temperature measuring device to take the readings.

As many mechanics know, when a part is too hot or too cold it can indicate problems. When I reviewed the temperatures, I did not see anything abnormal so now I can sleep better knowing that this doesn't show a ticking time bomb.

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