whats the best standard transmission

[jjramrod]

I wonder if I can put a dodge input shaft from a dodge np205 in a ford np205 to get the coarser stronger teeth. I already have a dodge np 205 I could take the part off of. Am I worrying to much? Or is that not even possible?

 

[ODdave]

nope. they will interchange but the dodge is a male shaft with a coupler.

Yu need a ford 205, and a 85-91 (Long) 32 spline 205 input. Ue the late gm 4x4 4500 with the cummins input. The spacer that you will need to go between the trans and t-case can be machined to adapt the 2 different bolt patterns.

 

[ODdave]

Dont be afraid of the 32 spline GM output, your NOT gonna break it.

 

[jjramrod]

Ok so what's the bolt pattern difference. I've been reading about the different np205 transfer cases. Is one a six bolt and one an 8 bolt? And can't I just get a adapter With the right pattern. So I don't have to have it machined. I don't want to potentially weaken the adapter. I plan on having the transmission professionaly built with all the updates and the cryogenic treatment to add 30 percent more strength. I also don't want to void the warranty.

 

[ODdave]

Dude, your WAY to pumped. There is an 8 bolt but that is dodge pre 85 chevy , irrelevent to your needs.

the ford and chevy both have a round 6 bolt pattern but the bolts are NOT symetrical and are in different locations between the 2. Machining the adapter for 6 more holes is NOT going to weaken it.

There is also no reason to do any dramatic upgrades for 300hp. save your $

If you lived closer I could make the adapter and biuld all of this (custom 4500 w/ ds 205) but NY is a haul

 

[jjramrod]

Ill be setting up the np205 myself though

 

[ODdave]

Well you know what you need. Time to

 

[jjramrod]

Ok I was just wanting to make Shure I got it all set up and done right. I had a 91 dodge with a nv4500 conversion that was stock and I had the 5th gear issue and it tore up the main shaft and sheared off the transfer case bolts. That was only 160hp with a stock 1997 nv4500. It went on the highway 75 miles from home. Id rather have over kill than under kill and have problems down the road. My father just bought a complete conversion kit for his 92 dodge with all the updates for $2,387.00. That was from the back of the engine to the transfer case. he got everything but the flywheel included.

 

[jjramrod]

I can get a stock nv4500 and a stock np205 for $330.00. but what would need done to it?

 

[ODdave]

the 5th gear on your 4500 had nothing to do with power. Just do the update and your good.

You can get a 4500 and 205 for $330? what 4500 is it and what 205 is it?

 

[jjramrod]

Any one I can find there are two local yards that if they have them all I have to do is pull them and that's the price. Once every year they both have a sale for transmissions and transfer cases 75.00 a piece. They also have a sale 50 percent of everything in the yard. And they have one all you can carry for one price and im pretty strong I could probably carry that. But they both rarely get diesels in. So I guess my question is would it be worth it to get them for that cheap then have to change the shafts so everything is right?

 

[ODdave]

I would be very suprized if they had a 4500 for $75 (not saying they dont get them in but people gladly pay 3x that amount and are still getting a deal. $75 for a ford 205 is fair i guess. There not worth much because there are so many of them (I wont pay more than $40)

If your going after a 4500 find one from a 4x4 GM that hase the INTERNAL slave cylinder (96 & newer) Those will be the ONLY GM 4500 that will accept a dodge input shaft and bearing retainer.

P.S. Dont try to carry the trans, your gonna get hurt and theres no pont in that.

 

[jjramrod]

Thanks for all the help ill be checking the yards when it quits snowing. Ill let ya know what I find.

 

[emr]

Is the ford 205 the one hooked to the c6 trans with the 460 motors, if so i have one for sale , and could not find a data plate on it , any interested let me know, and i will give more specs

 

[jjramrod]

It would cost more than getting one local by the time it was shipped.

 

[deuceaid]

P.S. Dont try to carry the trans, your gonna get hurt and theres no pont in that.

my back agrees with what he said

 

[jjramrod]

Been looking but haven't found a np 205 for less that 100.00 so far

 

[jjramrod]

Found a nv4500 2 wheel drive out of a 2000 for 100.00 with low miles is that worth getting?

 

[mudguppy]

yes - at the very least, most cores are worth $500.

 

[ODdave]

2wd chevy or dodge?