Sorry - OP here - I did not mean to ruffle any feathers.
I understand that some of you would be sensitive to this info being on SS, but THIS IS a military vehicle site, and it is hardly anywhere near to classified info - and as someone pointed out, I am only interested in info about pretty old vehicles - the FV432 looks to be the top of my list right now and it's about 40 years old.
Furthermore, the whole point of an APC is in the word 'ARMORED' - I don't think it's completely out of line to know what that really means.
If you REALLY think for a second that the Taliban is going to read this thread and get some info that would help them out then ... I won't finish that thought. I've read Junger's book about Afghanistan - guys on both sides of that conflict already know EXACTLY what capabilities each other has.
As for WHY I wanted to know, as several posters have surmised, my intent was and is to find a vehicle capable of protecting my family if the SHTF. And no, I am not 18, I'm in quite a bit older than that and I have people I am responsible for. I intend to use every bit of my knowledge and abilities to do that. If that offends you, or you think it's foolish, then as Tom Selleck said in one of his cowboy movies, "You have no idea how little I care."
And not to turn this thread into something else, but if you think things arent going to get much worse than they are now, then go read the Fourth Turning book. Figure out that cycles of war run about 80 years - the length of a long human life - just long enough for a society to forget the hard-fought wisdom of its elders.
Now look at this :
1780 Rev War
1860 Civ War
1940 WWII
2020 ?
Those are all eighty years apart - like clockwork. And that's the end of my posting to this thread.