whine in 5th gear

[wcolt45]

Wandering if this is somewhat normal,in 5th gear(3053a) tranny,like on the interstate 2000 rpm and above its making a howling sound only on the level ,under load like up a grade it doesnt do it,clutch seems to be adjusted correctly engages at the right point and does not slip,checked the throwout bearing while running and doesnt spin ,any ideas??

 

[Westech]

Hard to say over a post on the net... if it is working well.... its working. Make sure the fluid is full (one inch below the fill hole) and clean and let her fly.

 

[wcolt45]

New oil to proper level, working great,just havent been in enough deuces to get a feel for all the different sounds they make.

 

[NJDEUCE]

Check the e-brake assembly in the T-case, might have a bad spring.

 

[glcaines]

I get nervous when I hear someone with noices comeing from their transmission. My M35A2 started making a whining/rattling noise after about ~1,000 miles after recovery. Shortly thereafter, I shelled teeth on 5th gear and had to swap out the transmission for a take-out. My new transmission is completely silent. Actually, I should say that any transmission noise is hidden by all the other Deuce noises! As others have said, I would replace the transmission oil with new GL-1 making certain not to overfill it.

 

[RAYZER]

My trans was making the same sound,i changed the fluid using the proper gl1,it seemed to quiet it down some,but now its 4000 miles later and still going.

 

[Bill W]

My howl is louder than the turbo in 5th, can't be good and will be looking for a replacement soon

 

[RANDYDIRT]

Sounds like a case of excessive backlash in the box. It may last forever, or it may go out the next time you fire it up. Mine makes so much noise that it all runs together and I can't tell what's making the racket. I just wear earplugs and go blissfully on my way like I didn't know any better.

Dirt

 

[mcmullag]

less whine

I had a truck that whined and I changed all the gear oil in the; trans, t-case, and axles, and added some Lucas additive to the mix and it quieted down.

 

[deathrowdave]

Try engauging the transfer case front axle drive . Mine makes alot of noise until I engauge the transfer case then very QUIET . Removed the front drive section of the transfer case everything was new and clearences were great !!! Put it back together same noise . The old saying goes "if it ain't broke U can not fix it "!!!

 

[wcolt45]

What Lucas additive are you all using in the tranny and t case? i was wandering if since the 3053a is an overdrive tranny it could be the way the gears mesh together,besides i cant narrow the location of the noise down to the tranny ,planning on replacing the hi-lo shaft seal again on t case as it wont stop leaking and will take it for a spin with the humps removed ,maybe i can tell better where its at

 

[Ord22]

Its common for those transmissions to "whine" like that. make sure the oil filled properly.

 

[mcmullag]

I believe I used 1 quart of Lucas gear oil additive 75-140 w in each of the ddrive train pieces I mentioned earlier. I got the idea from someone in an older thread. I think I found it at autozone or checkers or wallyworld.

 

[wcolt45]

Took a spin with cover off trans &transfer case,screech is a better term for the noise ,loud screech,let off gas a little or push it a little harder it quiets down ,is it possable it is the clutch? looking to that next

 

[armadillofz1]

Mine howles like this. Bought another tranny same thing. I haven't had time but it's probably coming from the front axle/ diff.
Someone said xfer case but on mine it sounds like it's coming from the front.

 

[paulfarber]

The whine is a result of the gears meshing. Certain types of gears simply make more noise. Spur gears are typically the noisiest. Helical are quiet. Some say the changing the lube viscosity or to a synthetic oil can help.

My M35 whines pretty good in 5th above 50mph. My 42GPW whines all the time (transfer case noise mostly).

You could also look to see that you have good, solid mounts as high frequency vibrations can also cause noise from rotating components.

 

[wcolt45]

Paul, what viscosity have you heard may improve this??

 

[m-35tom]

how loud the whine is, can be a relative thing. hard to quantify, but with 30 wt mine is quiet, as they all should be. so using a heavy oil is just covering up a problem.
a loud whine is just an indication that something is worn and the clearances are wrong. 4th will tend to be quiet since it does not go thru any gears and then when you go to 5th it will sound louder. the best comparason would be 3rd and 5th. they should be about the same noise level.

tom

 

[wcolt45]

Hard to explain with a keyboard,2000rpm,d turbo ,on highway you can hear it over engine noise,quiet in 4th,also in 3rd,seems to only be heard 2000rpm and up in 5th

 

[Vfflang]

Hard to explain with a keyboard,2000rpm,d turbo ,on highway you can hear it over engine noise,quiet in 4th,also in 3rd,seems to only be heard 2000rpm and up in 5th

I have the same problem my 5th is in the upper right. Had a buddy drive and he figure it just to be gear noise I think its a little too loud. all gear are good but 5th can raddle you out of the cab with the whine, push clutch in and it goes away..going to check fluids tomorrow.