nk14zp
Active member
- 2,636
- 17
- 38
- Location
- Columbia Falls Maine
Ditto!!!!
Last edited:
Steel Soldiers now has a few new forums, read more about it at: New Munitions Forums!
Rolling Eudaimonio Wrote:Any of you guys run your trucks on bio-diesel? it seems like it would be the most affordable means to drive this truck?
Also I want to put a winch on my truck, actually two winches one in the front and one in the rear behind the cab for rear recovery. I was thinking a DP 35,000lb front winch for the front and DP 50,000lb winch planetary hyd winches actually. Will the truck's frame handle these sorts of winches? I sort of have a plan for the truck later one to drive from the Northern Most Part of Alaska to the Southern most part of Argentina all on Bio-Diesel and at least 80 percent of the time off road. So I figure in South America I could use 25ton winch to pull my truck out of the mud in the rain forest and up the hills that snake around the Andies.
Happy TreckingYeah I know the weight of the deuce is 13,050 lbs without winch, but I plan on taking off the rear cargo bed and putting on a lightweight tubular frame mount for the biggest possible bio-diesel and water (ADI actually) for a trip from Alaska to Argentina and where I plan on going there will be no roads. I want to be able to recover this truck when it is stuck in 2-4 feet of mud and weighed down totally. I might have to reinforce the frame some but the winches I've selected aren't that heavy. 930- 1000lbs for about 1930 lbs combined. I figure by taking off the rear bed and using a lightweight tubular structure I can maintain the max gross weight of 23,530 lbs. Also I plan on toting along 2.5 ton trailer also filled to the brim with Bio-diesel.
You need an Alvis Stalwart.If you can lock up the Transfer Case then I want it on my truck. I want the drive train so locked up that it attempts to move the Earth in the direction I drive.
you really think the 2.5 ton rated axles cant take this kind of torque? why? just because the military had have of that going to them doesn't mean they can't take it. Isn't there one guy on here with a built up 5.9 cummins and 53 tires in/on his deuce? if the axles can take that, I would assume they would be able to take what he is going to be doing on the street. now in an offroad situation where those bit tires get pinched in a rock and all that torque tries to break it out of there (especially with a locker) you have an increased chance of breakage. I think it would be able to take it. you would just have to watch it more off road when hitting the skinny pedal.This is an easy one.Cause Russia did not and still doesn't have roads to most parts of the country their trucks have to travel.And where there are dirt roads the soil is a a true swamp/Bog.OUR trucks are built to what they would see.Paved roads,Dirt roads of the Americas and europe where pretty much every war has been fought.We designed our equipment to work over there.Narrow enought to go through rail tunnels,work on their road ways,etc.As for the torque you wanna put through these.You might wanna look at other weak links.Like the axles.That much torque your gonna be blowing axles and diffs constantly.Not to mention the stock transmission.So basically,Your gonna have to replace the engine(to get the torque you want),Transmission,Transfer,Axles,tires,wheels......wouldn't it be easier to get a 6x6 Kenworth chassis and drop a deuce body on it?
you really think the 2.5 ton rated axles cant take this kind of torque? why? just because the military had have of that going to them doesn't mean they can't take it. Isn't there one guy on here with a built up 5.9 cummins and 53 tires in/on his deuce? if the axles can take that, I would assume they would be able to take what he is going to be doing on the street. now in an offroad situation where those bit tires get pinched in a rock and all that torque tries to break it out of there (especially with a locker) you have an increased chance of breakage. I think it would be able to take it. you would just have to watch it more off road when hitting the skinny pedal.
Ref your previous posts --- see below:
When are you making your 80% off-road bio-diesel deuce treck from the northern tip of Alaska to the southern tip of Argentina?
In the meantime it seems like all want to do is ask questions and then take issue with the answers. I'm not only fed up --- I'm also bored with it all. This is my last response to your posts.
Rolling Eduaimonia Wrote:
Rolling Eudaimonio Wrote:
Happy Trecking
Welcome to Steel Soldiers.I've watched you guys run around in circles about the multi-fuel aspect of the engine spewing misinformation like it is manna from heaven.
You obviously aren't used to working with larger US military trucks. Damn near everything on there is underrated, meaning, the rating for that winch is pretty low compared to what it will actually pull. Don't compare them to the crap Warn makes and other commercial winches. The winch on the Deuce is rated very conservatively.The 10,000lb winch on the truck at present is rather underrated. I've gotten plenty of things stuck in the mud when I was kid and I know this if you want to move a 3,500lb Jeep CJ5 out of 20 inches of mud you need 7,000lbs of force minimum. If the truck can get some traction than 7,000lbs will do the trick. However, if the truck is totally stuck and not budging an inch backwards or forwards then one needs at least 10,000-12,000lbs of force to move the out of the mud.
Yeah, it was right after Lee got his Deuce and he pulled out some sort of wheeled crane sunk up to the axles in mud. He used a snatch block, but it was still very impressive for a Deuce winch. I'm more than a little sure the post on The Zone got lost in one or more forum crashes and I don't know if Lee still has his site up anymore.No Tim, he's talking about the one where he used the deuce to pull a tracked vehicle out of a mud pit with 3 or so snatch blocks.
We get it, advertisements are annoying!
Sure, ad-blocking software does a great job at blocking ads, but it also blocks useful features of our website like our supporting vendors. Their ads help keep Steel Soldiers going. Please consider disabling your ad blockers for the site. Thanks!