WMO recovery, How do you...

[Deuce_of_Spades]

WMO recovery, How do you go pump/recover your black gold? I have 500 free gallons of UMO I can go and pick up but I only have a very light duty oil pump by Fill-Rite.

I want to know what you guys are pumping with? Are you all spending the big bucks on some sort of diaphragm pump, air opp'ed. or is there a way to turn your truck into a pump? Can I run some sort of vaccum hose off the engine to a bunch of drums or what? I'd love to know what setups are out there. I want to get this WMO before people start charging me for it. I found 3 totes(275gals.) for 20 bucks a piece so I have the storage but not the transport from tank to tank!

Thanks SS!

 

[CCATLETT1984]

a "trash" pump from harbor freight will work well, if you have electricity where you have to go for the oil (would take a hefty invertor to run it)

 

[nf6x]

So far, I've just accumulated 20-30 gallons or so of my own waste oil (well, actually it came from my trucks) in a drum and I haven't burnt any of it yet, but I'll throw something out anyway: Last time I was at Harbor Freight, I noticed that they had a few different drum pumps, both in hand-cranked and air-powered versions. One of those might come in handy as long as you're retrieving the oil from tanks that have a big enough hole in the top and aren't any deeper than a drum is.

Also, I just saw a link to this 12V/24V oil pump in another thread where the poster was asking about using it as a pre-oiler pump:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=4097

I hope these suggestions give you some good ideas.

 

[CCATLETT1984]

remember when looking for a pump for collection purposes, you dont care about pressure only volume.

 

[cranetruck]

Got an old Binks diaphragm pump that I need to test with the deuce air system....it was used for paint and glue by the previous owner, so WVO/WMO shouldn't be the problem.

 

[Deuce_of_Spades]

Re: RE: WMO recovery, How do you...

So far, I've just accumulated 20-30 gallons or so of my own waste oil (well, actually it came from my trucks) in a drum and I haven't burnt any of it yet, but I'll throw something out anyway: Last time I was at Harbor Freight, I noticed that they had a few different drum pumps, both in hand-cranked and air-powered versions. One of those might come in handy as long as you're retrieving the oil from tanks that have a big enough hole in the top and aren't any deeper than a drum is.

Also, I just saw a link to this 12V/24V oil pump in another thread where the poster was asking about using it as a pre-oiler pump:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=4097

I hope these suggestions give you some good ideas.

nf6x, thanks for the suggestions but I have this very pump. I use it to filter my wmo before it goes in the truck. But after 50 gals or so it starts to smoke. It would not make it through a 500 gal. transfer.

As for the Harbor Frieght jobs, they dont have any electric oil transfer pumps and the hand crank pumps are just a little to much for me at 500 gals. What is it, 15 revolutions per gal?

CraneTruck, What does a Binks diaphragm pump run? Gals per min? Do you think it will run off the Deuce?

 

[bottleworks]

Get a GM 350 engine oil pump from Autozone. You can tap it to 3/8" NTP and connect an electric drill to it. Pumps over 10 Gals a minute. That's what I use because it's the cheapest way to do it. Bjorn's pump would be the best, just the most costly.

 

[res0wc18]

i use a water pump or trash pump that is. Just stick her in there and itll pump out faster than you can imagine.

 

[Deuce_of_Spades]

CCATLETT1984 and res0wc18,

So what is a trash pump exactly? They have these at Harbor Freight? Is it like a sump pump? Like for gray water? And I can use this for UMO? Any pics?? Thanks for any info!

 

[ida34]

Thrash pump is for stuff like pumping rain water out of a construction hole. The have a small gas engine that runs a large pump that has a high volume at low pressure. They have them at harbor freight in the same section as the sump pumps. The trash pumps have a semi rigid suction hose and the discharge hose usually is PVC hose like the ones used for pool pumps when you are back washing the filter.

 

[Deuce_of_Spades]

Is there any real reason why this pump would not work...?

1-1/2" Clear Water Pump with 2.5 HP OHV Gas Engine

Powerful 2.5 HP, 79cc, 4-stroke overhead valve gas engine
52 gallons per minute
72 ft. head lift
23 ft. suction height
Low oil alert
1.5 continuous operating hours
Recoil start
EPA and CARB certified

Comes with 2-1/2" x 2" hose adapters, barbed fittings, gaskets, clamps, joints, rubber feet and strainer. 3600 RPM; Fuel tank capacity: 0.37 gallons/1.4 liters; Oil capacity: 12-1/2 oz; Max. solids: 5/32"; Inlet/outlet: 1-1/2"; Overall dimensions: 12-3/4" L x 17-3/8" W x 15-1/4" H
Weight: 40.7 lbs.

 

[ida34]

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=95977

145 gallons a minute.

 

[Offroadfabworks]

heres a pic of WMs portable transfer pump set up. northern tool diesel fuel pump. 12v

 

[ida34]

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=95975

364 gallons a minute

 

[Offroadfabworks]

ida34 aint playing around every second is valuable time with the black gold

 

[Deuce_of_Spades]

Whaaoooh horsie! Ok so I was thinking mabe the smallest 1.5 inch not the 4 inch!!! And I thought the 1.5 inch was a bit over kill. the 4 inch is a lot over kill! But you guys think I can pump oil with these????

 

[Offroadfabworks]

we have pumped couple thousand gallon with the setup of WMs. best $60 pump ever

 

[ida34]

I don't know how long the pump will work. It says it is for clear water only. People making bio diesel have been using a cheap clear water pump from HF and they seem to not have a problem with them breaking down. I just got two of them. One will be used for my bio diesel reactor and the other will be used to filter WMO. Since you are not putting any pressure on it I would think they would do just fine. the trash pumps can pull form 50 feet or so down and self prime. If you do not have to lift then a lesser pump would work. If you need to lift then you need something a little beefier.

 

[Deuce_of_Spades]

Thanks for the info Chuck! I have to pull from a tank that is about 8 to 10 feet up in the air, down to the pump on the ground and the push it up to my tote tanks sitting in the back of the deuce. So thats another 10 feet or so. and I dont want it to take all day. I think I like the idea of that clear water pump. I think I would only need the 1.5 and not the 4 inch pump. I can throttle it down if I want and at 50 gals a min. it wont take me all day. To collect my little treasure!!!

 

[nf6x]

I'm looking forward to hearing how the trash pump works out. I've been thinking about buying one of those, though not for oil transfer. I have a 5,000 gallon water tank on my property for fire suppression. It's there so that a fire truck can hook up to it and have some water to pump, since the city water supply at my rural property can't feed a proper fire hydrant (so my house is on city water, but I still need a fire tank as if I was on a well). I'd like to get a pump that I can use to run my own fire hose off my tank, and those HF trash pumps looked interesting. I was thinking about seeing if I could convert one to run off a propane tank, so that I wouldn't need to worry about gasoline going bad in the tank and failing me when I need it the most.