Stock wheel with weld-on beadlocks and 395's... thoughts?

[Jakob]

My thoughts have been to take the stock wheels, have the rings removed, and weld-on 20" beadlock kits. This would get rid of the troublesome lock ring, widen the mounting area at least an inch so that the tires fit better, and make it easier to change tires. I have known these beadlock kits to be used with success on Jeeps, full size trucks, and all out rock machines. My only concern would be with the weight of our trucks.

 

[minigunmike]

I would think that it would need balanced but other than that you should be fine since your not messing with the center.

 

[gringeltaube]

Not sure how you would possibly mount a tire, after the bead-lock flange is welded in place?
Keep in mind that the stock Deuce wheels are so-called "tapered base rims"; not semi-drop center- or even well-base rims.


G.

 

[Csm Davis]

Not sure how you would possibly mount a tire, after the bead-lock flange is welded in place?
Keep in mind that the stock Deuce wheels are so-called "tapered base rims"; not semi-drop center- or even well-base rims.


G.

He is talking about a civilian style beadlock which just sandwiches the bead on the outside bead.

sent from my decrepit fingers

 

[Jakob]

I might order up one of these sets just to try it out. Unless someone can confirm or deny that they work before I experiment with them.

 

[gringeltaube]

He is talking about a civilian style beadlock which just sandwiches the bead on the outside bead.

sent from my decrepit fingers

Correct, 20" civilian.... two flange pieces, a little over 21-1/2 inches, O.D., and lots of bolts and washers. First ring to be welded-on, 2nd one bolts to the first, clamping/squeezing the outer bead... (Or would this be something completely different from what the rock-crawlers are using?)

Now, if a flange of that size was welded to the stock inner wheel, how would someone be able to get the first (inner) bead of the tire over it? Knowingly, tire beads don't stretch...



G.

 

[quickfarms]

One big issue I see is tube tires and tubeless tires have a different cross section in the bread area

 

[Csm Davis]

Correct, 20" civilian.... two flange pieces, a little over 21-1/2 inches, O.D., and lots of bolts and washers. First ring to be welded-on, 2nd one bolts to the first, clamping/squeezing the outer bead... (Or would this be something completely different from what the rock-crawlers are using?)

Now, if a flange of that size was welded to the stock inner wheel, how would someone be able to get the first (inner) bead of the tire over it? Knowingly, tire beads don't stretch...



G.

Because you don't put whole bead over the edge all at once, you put it on at an angle and only have to get two points to go past 21.5" which just kinda ovals the bead slightly for a second, no biggie.

sent from my decrepit fingers

 

[Jakob]

One big issue I see is tube tires and tubeless tires have a different cross section in the bead area

I didn't take that into consideration, good point. Hypothetically, this shouldn't affect the function of the physical bead-lock addition. The hardware itself may need to be longer to compensate for that.

 

[gringeltaube]

Because you don't put whole bead over the edge all at once, you put it on at an angle and only have to get two points to go past 21.5" which just kinda ovals the bead slightly for a second, no biggie.

sent from my decrepit fingers

Sorry Jeff, but I have to disagree here: What you say is only possible with a drop-center wheel/rim; not a stock Deuce rim.

I might order up one of these sets just to try it out. Unless someone can confirm or deny that they work before I experiment with them.

Yes, better buy one set and find out by yourself. (I say it won't work but I may be wrong...)

 

[Csm Davis]

I say go for it, I think it will work. Gringeltaube I bet you a beer, even if I have to air mail it.

sent from my decrepit fingers

 

[gringeltaube]

.... I bet you a beer, even if I have to air mail it.

Yes for the beer, no for the delivery method! Better come to the rally in October; that'll come out cheaper, either way ...

 

[jasonjc]

Sorry Jeff, but I have to disagree here: What you say is only possible with a drop-center wheel/rim; not a stock Deuce rim.


Yes, better buy one set and find out by yourself. (I say it won't work but I may be wrong...)

I don't think it will go either. It would be like not removing the lock ring.

 

[Csm Davis]

I don't think it will go either. It would be like not removing the lock ring.

Okay if I am wrong you can have a cold one if you come to the GA rally also.

sent from my decrepit fingers

 

[gringeltaube]

I'm seriously looking forward to meet you two, there!


G.

 

[Jakob]

I'll attempt it on one wheel before I get the stuff to do it on EVERY wheel.

Does anyone have a cross section of a Deuce wheel and a drop center wheel?

 

[gringeltaube]

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?96077-wheel-drawings&p=1231575&viewfull=1#post1231575
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?69583-Perfect-Backspacing&p=845618&viewfull=1#post845618

 

[Jakob]

http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?96077-wheel-drawings&p=1231575&viewfull=1#post1231575
http://www.steelsoldiers.com/showthread.php?69583-Perfect-Backspacing&p=845618&viewfull=1#post845618

Perfect...
Now, I need to do some brain storming...