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Curious old M49 fuel truck

gringeltaube

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1) Before you start with that oil pan: Note that the deep sump continues full width, almost down to the bottom.
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2) Front crossmember & motor mounts: I managed to take just a couple pics - before the hornets got too irritated...
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Then I found some loose parts in the junk pile, which made it all much easier to measure:
Inside the crossmember and perfectly centered to it is a 13x3.5x2.25in piece of #3/16" C-channel. Two pair of rivets, 5 inches apart, hold it firmly in place.
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On top of that assembly - and attached to it with just two 1/2"bolts - rides a "table" (13"x 10") which supports the engine to the back and also the radiator at the front.
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That surface has a slight incline, down to the rear, actually the same as the whole powerplant, about 3°
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The (vertical) distance between that plane/table and the underside of the block (where the pan goes attached) is exactly 4.5 inches
The motor mounts themselves measure roughly 3x3x1.5in.

3) Fenders/louvers: To the inside both fenders have vertical walls and running parallel to the frame, unlike the MF. Pass side has an indent (20x24x7x8in) to the top rear, to make room for the air filter.
Some dimensions are shown in the pics, below:
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And this is on the drivers side:
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@gringeltaube - thank you so much for the pictures and for the measurements! I'm glad you didn't mess with the hornets too much!

I'm really impressed, that you take the motto from your messages so seriously.

For years I wanted to build a model of a Vietnam-era deuce, but all the references I had so far were only those for much later multi-fuels. But now, thanks to you, I slowly see my dream comin' true!

I'll re-do that oil pan sump and when I look at the necessary corrections to the fenders, I wonder if it wouldn't be better to 3D-print the fenders too.

Once again, thanks a lot for your help - not only great references for me, but hopefully for other modellers too!

Have a nice day!

Paweł
 

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Hey, glad if it helps!
I kind of feel your pain because I did some modelling too, in my much younger years. It's always great when you have access to the real thing - or at least to someone who does....... :wink:

Yes, gasser and MF fenders are very different, under the hood. I have many, pulled loose. So, if you need more details just say so.
 

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Hello everybody!

I have reworked the oil pan. Now it looks like this:

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Thanks to excellent Info from @gringeltaube I have also drawn up the gasser-specific fenders:

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As you can see the motor mount crossmember is also there. Please let me know if you see something off here. I'd like to know If I got the fender channels right and if the front crossmember position is OK.

I'm going to add some innards around the engine to make it look busy.

Thanks again for all the help I got here and have a nice day!

Paweł
 

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Hello!
Thanks a lot for providing the dimensions. Looks like my front crossmember is too far back on the digital model. Looks like I have another understanding problem here - the "table" on the front crossmember, does it stick out substantially forward of the front fender edges? I thought it should be almost in line with the front fender edges, because the radiator doesn't stick out too much forward.
Thanks in advance for any infos on that and have a nice day!
Paweł
 

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Hello!
A small update - I added some "innards" around the block to make it look busy. The front crossmember is still too far back, like I wrote above. The exhaust pipe would be a little over 4'' in diameter - looks a bit much for me, but that's also how it is in the kit:

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Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł
 

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the "table" on the front crossmember, does it stick out substantially forward of the front fender edges?
Yes, about 4.5"
I took an old drawing I posted long ago and added that plate with the radiator in the right location.
From the fender edge to center of rad stud holes I measured 3.35" (could be +/- 0.1)

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The exhaust pipe would be a little over 4'' in diameter - looks a bit much for me, but that's also how it is in the kit:
It is less than 3 inches, actually. I just posted that here, a few days ago....
 
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Hey, this is a cool drawing! A real treasure for a modeller! Now I can check all the important dimensions in the AFV Club kit!

If I move the front crossmember 4,5 scale inches forward, then it will be spot on with your measurements, but I'll probably have to adjust the front motor mount. But I'm moving closer to 3D printing it!

Thanks again for your great help and have a nice day!

Paweł
 

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Hello everybody!

I think I'm almost done with the fenders and the underside of the engine. Here's what I have:

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I even got carried away and have drawn the belt drive and the weird radiator fan, although probably very little will be visible of this:

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I think I need to draw up the steering box - it's missing from the kit. Would it be a box like this:

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And I'm still working on the parts for the tanker body.

Thanks for looking and have a nice day!

Paweł
 

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Hello everybody!

I think I'm almost done with the fenders and the underside of the engine. Here's what I have:

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I even got carried away and have drawn the belt drive and the weird radiator fan, although probably very little will be visible of this:

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I think I need to draw up the steering box - it's missing from the kit. Would it be a box like this:

View attachment 939309Or does the "gasser" have a different design?

And I'm still working on the parts for the tanker body.

Thanks for looking and have a nice day!

Paweł
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The steering box that you have looks to me like it would be just about right...
 
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