FLU419 SEE HMMH HME Owners group

[The FLU farm]

Ok, I am at it again, have tack working though at times looses ground, temp gauge now works, NO fluid in the clutch reservoir need to find where it went, maybe the rat drank it, had to put the pto engaged then start the engine, rolled the backhoe to work position, have two froze control levers, still have some wiring issues, no air build yet.

Now some questions,
1--Is dot 5 used ?
2--Does anybody have a brake/clutch reservoir cap, rat ate part of the cap and lost one of the contacts
3--Does anybody have a good oil pressure sender, still can not get the oil pressure gauge to work, so I want to start with a sender that works, then fix or run new wires to the gauge.

The more I work on this POS, the gladder I am that IT DO NOT OWN IT.

I can answer number 1. Yes, synthetic brake fluid only.
For number 2, if it's only the wiring part that's eaten and the cap still seals, I wouldn't worry about it. Might only be connected to the diagnostic system. Unless you have to worry about it because of the customer, that is.

 

[The FLU farm]

once my buddy stands the digger up. some times it can take 5 minutes of fiddling around to get the arm to extend than it works fine the rest of the day.

Okay, after thinking about the above, do you mean that the boom (inner "arm") or the dipper (that the bucket is attached to) won't extend?
If it's the boom, and the release lever actually lifts the mechanical lock, it could be that the over-center design of the boom cylinder is the culprit. It's been so long since I used the backhoe that I can't remember if it will extend by simply pushing the lever out, or if it does need a quick pull first.

 

[snowtrac nome]

well I suppose we are lucky we got a dusting over night about 800 miles southwest of me Seward AK got 3 feet of snow mixed with rain what a mess that must be. Thanks for your imput I will have to get the hydraulic schematics printed out so I can follow them

 

[The FLU farm]

But does anybody think that some of the features are too slick for their own good?

I sure do. The entire diagnostic system for example. And there are many other features I'd gladly do without.

 

[73m819]

I can answer number 1. Yes, synthetic brake fluid only.
For number 2, if it's only the wiring part that's eaten and the cap still seals, I wouldn't worry about it. Might only be connected to the diagnostic system. Unless you have to worry about it because of the customer, that is.

The two wires coming out of the cap are for the LOW fluid warning, both a light and buzzer.

 

[The FLU farm]

The two wires coming out of the cap are for the LOW fluid warning, both a light and buzzer.

That qualifies as a "too slick" feature to me. Not that the buzzer is still operational in any of my FLUs.

 

[Sny427]

Welcome. It looks like your first post.

Are you saying that that is what you plan to do? Or maybe that you already did it?

Peut-être le français est votre premier language, et l'anglais votre seconde. C'est ça?
(Mon français, ce n'est pas si bon, alors. Il y'a plusieurs d'années.)

Oui effectivement c'est ma première langue.
I have a unimog 406 and I want to buy a flu419. I would like to be certain that we can install a pto of unimog 406?

 

[The FLU farm]

I have a unimog 406 and I want to buy a flu419. I would like to be certain that we can install a pto of unimog 406?

Only guessing here, but it's probably easier to plumb in a hydraulic motor with a PTO shaft output on a SEE than to add a regular mechanical PTO.
Alright, I already know it'd be fairly simple to add a hydraulically driven PTO. But its output wouldn't be a high as that of a mechanical PTO.
If that solution provides enough power depends on what you want to run off of that PTO.

 

[Migginsbros]

Hello.
Can install a front and rear pto on my Flu419.
thank you
Bruno Angers

I think you can´t use the parts from the 406. In place of a 406 PTO(front/rear)drive on the SEE trany is the drive for the big backhoe hydr.pump. The SEE trany is a much later as the 406 trany
so its not equal. And if you route a rear PTO you can´t let the backhoe in place, I think.
We own 406 forest skidder from 1972 which is equipped with a PTO to drive 2 off 6 ton winches and aditionaly the front drive shaft. The bolt pattern is totaly different compared to the
4 bolt SEE pattern of the PTO housing that attaches the hydr.pump.

 

[BigBison]

If it's the boom, and the release lever actually lifts the mechanical lock, it could be that the over-center design of the boom cylinder is the culprit. It's been so long since I used the backhoe that I can't remember if it will extend by simply pushing the lever out, or if it does need a quick pull first.

If you slew over to center and still can't get the boom to unlatch, lower your stabilizers all the way; this tilts the boom back towards the operator, making it easy to unlatch instead of just bending that crazy-bent unlatch lever (which I have to remind myself to push sideways to operate). Then lower the stabilizers back down to level operation.

I now keep a sturdy stick in the SEE's toolbox, when it gets cold enough that's about the only way to work that latch!

 

[BigBison]

I mean I get it, if there weren't trouble at all, then there'd be no thread. But does anybody think that some of the features are too slick for their own good?

Maybe, but maybe those systems would still work fine without the 15 years sitting around in a yard unused?

 

[The FLU farm]

Yeah, it would've been quicker to use something else, but the HMMH has been sitting for a long time, largely because the 5-plus feet of snow (so far) this month has kept the SEE busy. Despite the hibernation and cold morning, it fired right up. Besides, it was appropriate to use a FLU to get the new FLU tires.

This also presented the opportunity to figure out the 4WD air leak. Took all of 30 seconds to find the problem, and it will take a couple of minutes to fix. Wish all FLU ailments were that simple.

 

[Migginsbros]

View attachment 663888Yeah, it would've been quicker to use something else, but the HMMH has been sitting for a long time, largely because the 5-plus feet of snow (so far) this month has kept the SEE busy. Despite the hibernation and cold morning, it fired right up. Besides, it was appropriate to use a FLU to get the new FLU tires.

This also presented the opportunity to figure out the 4WD air leak. Took all of 30 seconds to find the problem, and it will take a couple of minutes to fix. Wish all FLU ailments were that simple.

We wish we had snow in our area this winter like some years before. We are prepared. Get our spare tires (9 x 20) fitted with chains and serviced our vintage snowmobile .....but... not enough snow this winter till now. Have a nice weekend !

 

[73m819]

Does anybody have a good used oil pressure sender for the SEE that they would like to sell ???

 

[General Hood]

It is the FREAKIN wiring, every thing else is not to bad, who ever designed the wiring had way to much time on there hands, could have been watching porrn and keep there hands busy, I have NEVER seen wiring this big of a mess since I started messing with trucks and heavy equipment.

While mending the wiring on my SEE, my conclusion was the wiring was first on the assembly line, and they built the rest of the SEE around it

 

[Another Ahab]

Get our spare tires (9 x 20) fitted with chains View attachment 664042 .....but... no snow this winter till now. Have a nice weekend !

Those are some seriously aggressive chains. Where did you pick those up?

 

[Another Ahab]

While mending the wiring on my SEE, my conclusion was the wiring was first on the assembly line, and they built the rest of the SEE around it

Thanks for the laugh, General Hood!

 

[73m819]

Thanks for the laugh, General Hood!

AA, it may be funny to you now, but AFTER someone brings a rat dinner SEE to you to fix what the inconsiderate rat eat, you WILL NEVER make the statement again and most likely promise to shoot the next miserable SOB that even thinks about bringing another rat dinner SEE to you to fix.

 

[Migginsbros]

Those are some seriously aggressive chains. Where did you pick those up?

Get them on an auktion, think here they come from

http://www.westenthanner.com/Schnee...g--LkW--180-s-und-Traktor-ab-119----Euro.html

 

[lummi]

Did you ever figure out why the RPM switch wasn't working? I am having the same problem. Does the tools switch need to be engaged for the hi/low switch to work? Also, what is the part number of the Cole Hersee tool switch (broke mine trying to clean terminals). Thanks