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Graves Mountain MV Trailrides and Rally, September 1-5, 2016

JSF01

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Great pics Jonathan, you get home ok?

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I had no major issues. Shortly after I left the transmission started slipping out of gear, So at the one roundabout I stopped at the 7 eleven gas station and added a quart of transmission fluid. From there I had zero other issues. I probably should have added that quart before I pushed out as she was acting up when we went shooting.
 

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Speaking of shooting I realized when I got home I still had your half moon clips in my pocket.:roll::oops::oops: PM me an address and I will get them back to you.

Rick
 

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Speaking of shooting I realized when I got home I still had your half moon clips in my pocket.:roll::oops::oops: PM me an address and I will get them back to you.

Rick
I gave them to you to keep, I treat them as a one time use item. They can be reused if your very careful with loading and removing the spent casings, but because they're so simple to accidentally to bend I don't plan on getting multiple uses out of them. If I do than great I just don't count on it. They are sold dirt cheep at the local gun shows and I buy them like 50-100 at a time. I get them like 5 for $1 so the cost of the envelope and stamp almost cost more than for me to purchase replacements any way.

To show my point here is a defensive shooting match I did with my M1917 with brand new moon clips. I was in a rush when loading them and ended up accidentally slightly bending a bunch of them. You can see me really struggling to pull the trigger in double action because of it.
https://youtu.be/3IqlsPogJXI
 

Another Ahab

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To show my point here is a defensive shooting match I did with my M1917 with brand new moon clips. I was in a rush when loading them and ended up accidentally slightly bending a bunch of them. You can see me really struggling to pull the trigger in double action because of it.
I don't know the M1917, but that sure looks like a revolver barrel in the vid, and there's clearly no slide beneath it. Am I mistaken? Because how are you using clips in a revolver? I'm sure I''m missing something here (and believe me I'm no handgun scholar or anything).

That was some nice shooting by the way, especially on the steel targets.

I'm impressed also that you didn't use some choice expressions in your fluent French when you first encountered the chambering trouble in the first few shots! :)
 

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I don't know the M1917, but that sure looks like a revolver barrel in the vid, and there's clearly no slide beneath it. Am I mistaken? Because how are you using clips in a revolver? I'm sure I''m missing something here (and believe me I'm no handgun scholar or anything).

That was some nice shooting by the way, especially on the steel targets.

I'm impressed also that you didn't use some choice expressions in your fluent French when you first encountered the chambering trouble in the first few shots! :)
Moon clips allow you to fire rim less cartridges like .45 ACP in a revolver chambered in a rimmed cartridge like .45 long colt. Also makes loading much quicker on swing cylinder revolvers.

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I have been collecting photos in addition to the ones that I took during the event.
I posted them to my facebook page this afternoon....

I have 378 photo posted so far... (so don't look for me to post them here...).

They are located at:
https://www.facebook.com/cabell.gar...0210128133030545.1073741955.1554695295&type=3

I will eventually post them to the event website, but that might take some time as I need to rework that site and I have other demands on my time...
Cabell,
The Facebook link seems broken. Maybe it's my computer firewall, but I can't find that page. Maybe one has to have a Facebook account? I don't book my face...
Bulldogger
 

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I don't know the M1917, but that sure looks like a revolver barrel in the vid, and there's clearly no slide beneath it. Am I mistaken? Because how are you using clips in a revolver? I'm sure I''m missing something here (and believe me I'm no handgun scholar or anything).

That was some nice shooting by the way, especially on the steel targets.

I'm impressed also that you didn't use some choice expressions in your fluent French when you first encountered the chambering trouble in the first few shots! :)
Yes it is a revolver. When I say clip I mean an actual clip and not a magazine. When the US entered WWI they needed a lot more sidearms, so they decided to put out a contract for revolvers. They also wanted ammunition compatibility between the M1911 and the new revolvers, so they had to be chambered in .45 ACP. The issue with that is of course is revolvers use the rim of the cartridge to headspace off of while .45 acp is rimless. The solution by S&W was Half Moon clips that held 3 cartridges together and the clip would act like the rim (Now a days they also have full moon clips which is what I uses). S&W also relized very early that they could cut a shoulder into the cylinders that the case mouth could rest on which works in a pinch if you don't have any clips, though the ejector has nothing to work against so each case has to be pried out by hand. On mine unfortunately or fortunately depending how you look at it, at some point had the shoulder drilled down so it can take .45 LC, so I can only use .45 acp with moon clips. Here is a picture of mine with two moon clips of .45 acp, while the cylinder is loaded with .45 LC
 

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rickf

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I don't know the M1917, but that sure looks like a revolver barrel in the vid, and there's clearly no slide beneath it. Am I mistaken? Because how are you using clips in a revolver? I'm sure I''m missing something here (and believe me I'm no handgun scholar or anything).

That was some nice shooting by the way, especially on the steel targets.

I'm impressed also that you didn't use some choice expressions in your fluent French when you first encountered the chambering trouble in the first few shots! :)
Check out this link, it is a 25 minute video but the guy goes into a very good explanation of that particular pistol. And the half and full moon clips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9o_ALC-e7c
 

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Check out this link, it is a 25 minute video but the guy goes into a very good explanation of that particular pistol. And the half and full moon clips.
I get it. Sort of a speed loader. Thank you to all for the clarifications.

I really love that guy's pistol range. That's great!
 

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Cabell,
The Facebook link seems broken. Maybe it's my computer firewall, but I can't find that page. Maybe one has to have a Facebook account? I don't book my face...
Bulldogger
Yep, you have to be on FB to see them...
Now up to 431 photos...
I'll get them moved over to the event website at some point...
 

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I will get my pics up tomorrow I hope. My Dad passed on Friday morning and I got the news delivered to me while I was there so been pretty busy since I got back. Pics will make it here though.
Sorry to hear about your dad, Rick. :sad: I know ya missed me, and I will do my best to make it up to one of these again before the fat lady sings. :grin:

To all... happy to hear the weather went well for you, and that y'all had a great time! I would have enjoyed being there with you, but my wife and I had a nice, peaceful, quiet weekend at home with no kids, no grandkids, no neighbors and not a sound to be heard from any direction all weekend. It was wonderful! As I stated to Rick (above), I will do my best to make up to the Graves Rally again... maybe even next year. God Bless All!
 
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rickf

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Hi Don! Yea, I was talking to the wife about you. Was also telling the guy that is in your camping spot about all the neat little things you had to make camping such a leisurely thing. As you can see we have moved into the luxery side of camping although I am going to rebuild my truck camper. this RV is just too big for this kind of a deal.
 

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Hi Don! Yea, I was talking to the wife about you. Was also telling the guy that is in your camping spot about all the neat little things you had to make camping such a leisurely thing. As you can see we have moved into the luxery side of camping although I am going to rebuild my truck camper. this RV is just too big for this kind of a deal.
That's even got a name now:


glamping.jpg
 

rickf

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You guys would have to have seen Don's trailer to believe it. Not only that but the ingenious little things like his shaving mirror that hung from a little chain on a tree limb. 20 second setup! That kind of stuff.
 

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As always, had a great time Saturday at the Graves Mtn. rally! There are a bunch of great people who attend this event and it's worth it to try it out, if you haven't been there before. Cabell did his famous BBQ cookout on Saturday night, Ferro was kind enough to haul me and Syndi around in the bed of his M37 for half the day trailrunning (despite some unfortunate mechanical issues - don't feel bad Adam, I haven't been able to bring an MV to a rally in 5 years so you're still better off than I am!), saw some old friends and met some new ones. Always a great time at this event!
 
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