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Cepek shocks are adjustable. Lifetime warranty. Sales support a true offroad supporter and HMMWV/Hummer enthusiast, Tom Cepek.I have read and considered the Armada springs; I believe they will work for my application as my M1165 is light. I am not sure what the advantage is of having the Cepek shocks, but I will research. I appreciate the feedback. My kidneys thank it as well Haha
I have been thinking of trying out some even softer springs to thanks for this tip. Cepek shocks are more important than springs but anyone looking for a soft ride needs both. With tires at 22 psi my M998 rides softer on rough city roads than my VW Touareg.The true way to place springs is to:
Decide upon wanted ride height WRH
Measure spings uninstalled lengh USL
Install springs and measure Initial ride height. IRH
Set up a simultaneous equation to obtain wanted uninstalled ring length WUSL.
WRH / IRH= WUSL / USL
Solve for WUSL.
Remove and cut spring to calculated wanted uninstalled spring length.
Final re-installation.
IIRC
I have never liked the idea of airing down on pavement. This goes back to the Ford Explorer disasters. Ford was telling people to run 20 psi in tires. The tires flexed too much, the sidewalls degraded, and tire explosions caused many fatal and crippling accidents. This was worsened by the fact that Ford stopped reinforcing the A-pillars properly.I have been thinking of trying out some even softer springs to thanks for this tip. Cepek shocks are more important than springs but anyone looking for a soft ride needs both. With tires at 22 psi my M998 rides softer on rough city roads than my VW Touareg.
What I didn't see in this discussion was how tire pressure plays a significant role. The double bead lock allows me to air way down to 5-9 psi. With 42" tires I can fly through chop, rock fields and Moab square edges. It is a little spongy and bouncy with 5 psi so I set it to the terrain. I run about 22 psi on the road. I air down by removing the valve core (carry a spare) and air back up with a Tozalazz 12v portable air compressor which I am super impressed with. It airs up almost as fast as down. Run your engine while airing up or you can drain your battery.
Did you use the coil spacers in the front as well? I remember over in the Armada springs thread a few people talked about installing a spacer as well for the proper ride heightWell, I took the plunge and installed the Armada/ MOOG 81085 springs in the front position. Based on my calculations, I cut one ring from the springs to achieve the closest ride height I had with the old springs. With the new springs, I effectively lowered the front end 3"s!! This was not the result I was looking for, Lol. The M1165 A1, I believe, has a curb weight of approximately 8000#, and the Armada springs just collapse under that load. I will continue looking for a softer ride without the spring sag or the loss of fender clearance. I am posting this only to inform, not to admonish, as everyone who has offered help has been great and a wealth of knowledge. We tend to make our own problems when we take on one of these projects, and over the years, I have had a few. So, anyone looking to respring your M1165A1, I wouldn't consider the Armada spring unless you are completely stripped. When and if I find a suitable replacement I will post it here. Thank you for all the help.
I think you mean Coug my friend.TOBASH, I would have tried the spacers if the springs had not collapsed, but as they are, they have very little spring left in them, so adding the spacer would only collapse them more, I believe. The spacers, I believe, are 1" or 2", and I lost over 3 inches of fender clearance. However, I am still researching that route and will post it here when I find out.
Welcome to the SS forums!!hey guys… I have the 1123 Heavy basically stripped down - just read through this and still no clear solution on springs for better performance on or off the road?
Someone just posted an amazing description of opening stock HMMWV shocks to make them more ride friendly.hey guys… I have the 1123 Heavy basically stripped down - just read through this and still no clear solution on springs for better performance on or off the road?
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