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Modern 24 volt alternator install

SETOYOTA

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I’m not reinventing the wheel here. I know this has been done many times but I never found a thread here that really covered it. I’m sure if you talked to 5 people you would get 5 different ways to do this.

I found a lot of information on how to from the following web pages .

http://gear-report.com/the-deuce-utility-vehicle-d-u-v-project-m35a2-alternator-upgrade.

And

http://wolverinetechnologiesllc.com/AlternatorKitM35M54.html

I have no affiliation with either page . I have heard wolverine has been involved with litigation for what I don’t know but his page was very helpful.

Now for my how to experience .
I recently acquired a M35a2 that came to me with a bad alternator. I could not find a mil unit at a price I was willing to pay. This lead me to search for an alternative . I came across the previous mentioned web pages and began my acquisition parts.

The alternator is a delco style 21si 24 volt 70 amp for Diesel engines . It purchased off Amazon for $109. Here is the link. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...AB3B8&linkId=72d7a5f047445d51982d998088dded42

The pulley came from Amazon as well. Premium pulley for a Delco 21si alternator for 2 belts . https://www.amazon.com/PREMIUM-ALTE...rd_wg=aZEvQ&psc=1&refRID=953MP249GQX2JZTJ01WK

total for both was $133.

The other items needed are
1. Flat steel bar 1.5 inches by 1/8 thick.
2. 3/4 inch pipe
3. 5 1/12. X 1/2 bolt with locking nut and 2 washers.

I bought all of this at the local Ace Hardware. I’m sure it can be found at Lowe’s or Home Depot..

How to install.

1. The lower hole on the alternator mounts to the stock position.
2. The top adjuster arm mounts to the top mount. Roll the alternator to its proper tension point.
3. Now you will need to make the upper rear mount for the alternator. Cut the flat still bar to around 11 inches .
Mark the lower mounting hole on the flat steel where the bolt hole will need to be drilled. I did this by holding the
Flat steel bar in the lower mount. Dip the tip of the original bolt in paint. Slide it through the lower alternator mount making contact
With the flat steel bar. This is where you will need to drill the hole in the flat steel to make the lower rear mount.
After drilling the mounting hole attach using the orginal bolt.
4. Now slide your 5 1/2 bolt into the top altenator mount and mark the flat steel using the same paint procedure as before.
Cut the extra length off the flat steel.
5. Now using the 3/4 inch pipe cut a spacer about 2.5 inches long . Assemble hand tight with your remaining hardware.
6. Install the belts, adjust tension and tighten everything up.

Wiring it up.
1. Install the ground wire to the ground bolt on the alternator.
2. The hot wire or red wire goes to the hot/red terminal on the Alt,
3. The field wire (the one with the military connector) is no longer needed and can be tied back out of the way.

This was an easy mod that can easily be reversed.

The truck is charging dead in the green on the alt gauge .

Please note the front shaft of the alternator will be close to the fan. It will not touch and the fan does not flex.
 

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cattlerepairman

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Thanks for taking the time to do a write-up. This will help someoune out. I ended up using Wolverine's alternator kit and it was a perfect drop-in. My reasoning was similar; high cost for a military unit and less clutter by using a modern alternator.
 

SETOYOTA

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Maybe, I’ll get some of those. But you have to make due with what you have on hand.
 

yolner

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That gear-report site is pretty interesting. Thanks for the link. Is there an off the shelf alternator like this that puts out more than 70amps?
 

DHennon

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I’m not reinventing the wheel here. I know this has been done many times but I never found a thread here that really covered it. I’m sure if you talked to 5 people you would get 5 different ways to do this.

I found a lot of information on how to from the following web pages .

http://gear-report.com/the-deuce-utility-vehicle-d-u-v-project-m35a2-alternator-upgrade.

And

http://wolverinetechnologiesllc.com/AlternatorKitM35M54.html

I have no affiliation with either page . I have heard wolverine has been involved with litigation for what I don’t know but his page was very helpful.

Now for my how to experience .
I recently acquired a M35a2 that came to me with a bad alternator. I could not find a mil unit at a price I was willing to pay. This lead me to search for an alternative . I came across the previous mentioned web pages and began my acquisition parts.

The alternator is a delco style 21si 24 volt 70 amp for Diesel engines . It purchased off Amazon for $109. Here is the link. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...AB3B8&linkId=72d7a5f047445d51982d998088dded42

The pulley came from Amazon as well. Premium pulley for a Delco 21si alternator for 2 belts . https://www.amazon.com/PREMIUM-ALTE...rd_wg=aZEvQ&psc=1&refRID=953MP249GQX2JZTJ01WK

total for both was $133.

The other items needed are
1. Flat steel bar 1.5 inches by 1/8 thick.
2. 3/4 inch pipe
3. 5 1/12. X 1/2 bolt with locking nut and 2 washers.

I bought all of this at the local Ace Hardware. I’m sure it can be found at Lowe’s or Home Depot..

How to install.

1. The lower hole on the alternator mounts to the stock position.
2. The top adjuster arm mounts to the top mount. Roll the alternator to its proper tension point.
3. Now you will need to make the upper rear mount for the alternator. Cut the flat still bar to around 11 inches .
Mark the lower mounting hole on the flat steel where the bolt hole will need to be drilled. I did this by holding the
Flat steel bar in the lower mount. Dip the tip of the original bolt in paint. Slide it through the lower alternator mount making contact
With the flat steel bar. This is where you will need to drill the hole in the flat steel to make the lower rear mount.
After drilling the mounting hole attach using the orginal bolt.
4. Now slide your 5 1/2 bolt into the top altenator mount and mark the flat steel using the same paint procedure as before.
Cut the extra length off the flat steel.
5. Now using the 3/4 inch pipe cut a spacer about 2.5 inches long . Assemble hand tight with your remaining hardware.
6. Install the belts, adjust tension and tighten everything up.

Wiring it up.
1. Install the ground wire to the ground bolt on the alternator.
2. The hot wire or red wire goes to the hot/red terminal on the Alt,
3. The field wire (the one with the military connector) is no longer needed and can be tied back out of the way.

This was an easy mod that can easily be reversed.

The truck is charging dead in the green on the alt gauge .

Please note the front shaft of the alternator will be close to the fan. It will not touch and the fan does not flex.
Thanks for the report. I am removing the original generator from the deuce and replacing it with a new Delco 21si 24 v 70 amp alternator. I appreciated the pics and write up. Looks like a easy conversion.
Thanks!
Dhennon
 

Dieselfitter

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Good write up ,i ordered the same ,my truck had a generator and wasnt having luck finding test-troubleshooting info so decided to convert it .
jatonka has conversion wiring harnesses , a simple easy way to complete the install
my alt is 48” above the ground so im happy with having the ability to cross water up to that.
i doubt very much i ll ever encounter that living in a high plains desert .
 

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Does anyone know the specs for the pulley? The original link for it isn’t working and I’d like to get the correct one the first try.
 

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I can't believe nobody has done this with a large case Leece Neville alternator yet. They're not terribly expensive and they're much higher output. More robust as well. Mine is 100 amp, and I've got a spare that's 120 or 125 amp. Same case. I may be mistaken, but I think they're surplus early LMTV alternators.
 
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DutchmanZ

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I think this one will work. It not 100% sure

I can confirm that this pulley works just fine with the listed alternator and factory belt length. I completed the install yesterday. The only issue I had was the threaded part of the shaft was extra long and the fan blades just barely hit it while turning. I removed a few threads with a flap disc and it was fine.
 

DutchmanZ

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I can't believe nobody has done this with a large case Leece Neville alternator yet. They're not terribly expensive and they're much higher output. More robust as well. Mine is 100 amp, and I've got a spare that's 120 or 125 amp. Same case. I may be mistaken, but I think they're surplus ealy LMTV alternators.
Post some specifics. Pictures and part numbers are always appreciated. I like the Delco idea because I can get one at Napa if necessary. I also have no accessories so 70 amps is plenty for now but another option is good to have info on.
 

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Post some specifics. Pictures and part numbers are always appreciated. I like the Delco idea because I can get one at Napa if necessary. I also have no accessories so 70 amps is plenty for now but another option is good to have info on.
Not sure if I have any pics on this phone. I'm in Korea, and have been for nearly five years now. Let me do some looking and I'll post it if I find something.
* Edit* Found some pics, but nothing close up of the labels. If you zoom on one pic you can sort of read the label.
 

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DutchmanZ

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Not sure if I have any pics on this phone. I'm in Korea, and have been for nearly five years now. Let me do some looking and I'll post it if I find something.
* Edit* Found some pics, but nothing close up of the labels. If you zoom on one pic you can sort of read the label.
I didn’t recognize the user name but I recognize the truck and the 6BT in the pics. I’ve probably watched every one of your videos and many of them at least twice. Thank you for taking the time to document everything! It was extremely helpful when replacing my front axle seals and boots. When I swapped the engine and trans it was nice to have a heads up on everything there too.
 

Jeepsinker

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I didn’t recognize the user name but I recognize the truck and the 6BT in the pics. I’ve probably watched every one of your videos and many of them at least twice. Thank you for taking the time to document everything! It was extremely helpful when replacing my front axle seals and boots. When I swapped the engine and trans it was nice to have a heads up on everything there too.
Glad to help. That's the whole reason I made the channel.
 
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