Yes, but the Blue Trail can be driven by a regular pick-up truck (at low speeds) and she was on the upslope side on it, not the down-slope side where 'mount-son-of-a-biscuit' dropped off just about as fast on the trail as it did on the side - but the trail had fewer standing trees on it. I hope EMD (John Parker) will show more than 5 or 10 seconds of me walking/sliding down the trail as he was backing his truck down to the turn-around that was 'only 100 yards behind him'. Adam said it was more like a quarter of a mile. On a flat map it was probably 200 yards, but on that slope it might have been a quarter of a mile, and felt longer when you have to drive it backwards. I need to go edit pictures so I can post some of them.