Rebuilding Clutch Pressure Plate ?

[digitaldust]

does anyone know about rebuilding a pressure plate on the deuce ?
I have one broken finger holder at the pin hold end.

also looking for a clutch disc.

does anyone know how deep the clutch pad should be ? i only have 7K Miles on this truck with a 09 Re-depot rebuild on motor and trans .

Also , what is the difference 3 finger plate or 4 finger plate ?



FYI should you be reading this in a search down the road

Symptoms: Truck had grinding gear noise in 1 , R and did not want to sync going into 2 ,3 ,4 ,5 wile running
with truck not running trans shifted great.
Yes the clutch did move back and forth in the inspection window and adjusting the clutch play did not help.
hope this helps someone in the future.
Best of luck.

 

[SCSG-G4]

Four finger style is the older type, three is the latest version. To rebuild, you would need to find a donor 'finger' to replace the one that broke. Cheaper and faster to buy a new plate.

 

[m-35tom]

don't 'get lazy' or forget to resurface that flywheel. you cannot put a new disk against a worn flywheel. it will slip.

 

[eagle4g63]

It is best to replace your 4 finger pressure plate with the better 3 finger. As you see the 4 finger is prone to breaking......the same thing happened in my deuce, was a scary thing while driving in traffic and the thing wouldn't "let off" when I pushed in the clutch, had to force it out of gear. I wouldn't even wast my time rebuilding the 4 finger......could happen again, and do you REALLY want to pull the trans again?

You can get a hold of C&C equipment here in Indiana......he has the new set ups and pretty fast on shipping them out.......he is a member here and you can also find his contact info on the dreaded "evil bay"

 

[digitaldust]

I changed the clutch in my m109a3 and did not know about resurfacing the flywheel
Where do I take that and what is the cost on average

Also how about all the types of clutch disc and the pad layout

My m109a3 is great but engine break makes the truck kinda jump

 

[glcaines]

I wouldn't fool around with trying to rebuild the PP. You can find NOS 3-finger pressure plates very cheap. Ditto on resurfacing the flywheel. If the pilot bearing is worn, I'd replace it as well. If the crankshaft seal was leaking I'd replace it as well.

 

[eagle4g63]

As too the flywheel, call around.........check auto stores that turn brake rotors, or even machine shops. I just happen to be luck to have a high end auto machine shop close by........they do any type of machine work for cars and trucks.....I don't remember how much I think it was less than $50.

If you call C&C they sell the clutch kit with everything in it: pressure plate, clutch disk, throw out bearing, and the pilot bushing....all together, I think I paid $350 for it.

 

[digitaldust]

that sounds like a alright price. Now to find someone in MI to do the flywheel.

 

[digitaldust]

Ok well this is a update,
I have installed the new Clutch and P-plate , the flywheel was good , I have adjusted the clutch and I still have the same darn trouble , the truck grinds like mad going into gear,
COULD the throwout bearing be making this trouble?

ALso the new clutch does not have the taper on the center as the old one did , the new clutch is just a round center spline with no taper on the transmission side.

 

[Jeepsinker]

Throwout bearing or pilot bushing. Usually a pilot that does this. If it was the throwout bearing you would hear it making a racket.

 

[Jeepsinker]

And if you don't surface that flywheel you'll be putting another clutch in soon. Save yourself the trouble and just get it done. No used flywheel is "Just ok" to reuse with a new clutch.

 

[digitaldust]

i do hear the racket , how does a throwout go bad ?

 

[digitaldust]

i do hear the racket. My throwout feels loose in the rotating area. , how do they go bad ?

 

[Jeepsinker]

It has sealed roller bearings in it that wear out and put uneven pressure on the fingers, which makes it hard to completely release when the clutch pedal is depressed.

 

[Jeepsinker]

Never do a clutch job without replacing everything while you're in there. It ain't worth the few bucks you save. Not biting your head off, I've just learned from experience in the automotive field.

 

[digitaldust]

Yes I thank you for the help. I will re-install and advise. thanks again,
I'd have to say. your just being clear and direct , with great information ,

 

[Jeepsinker]

Your welcome. If you can't get the flywheel surfaced then you can use a right angle air buffer and a red roloc ( kinda like scotch brite) disk to scuff it up and it'll get you by for a while, but you won't get a good lifespan out of it.

 

[m-35tom]

what gear are you trying to put it into? are you giving it time to stop spinning or using a syncro gear to brake it first? if you do brake it with a syncro does it then go into gear (1st or rev easily?) it all makes a differance in diagnosing what is wrong.

 

[digitaldust]

I just take off in first, and Yup I do wait on the spin down, Its working great now that I have changed the throwout !
works like it should ! thanks again to everyone on SS !
Hope this thread helps others with this question down the road .