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It was also pointed out that for the cost of repairs and other upgrades down the road (power steering, brakes, etc) I could upgrade to a 5 ton
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Total length was about 6ft. Problem is that would make the driveshaft from the tcase to the middle axle about a foot long, too short.How much longer is it? Seems like you could take a foot or two out of the driveshaft.
I'd stay clear of the "ZF" transmission Jake. I've worked on these transmissions a lot and they are "extremely" expensive to repair. The German engineering is great, but just like everything else they go overboard on the design. Remember the Tiger tanks of WWII . They where the best tank made, but too complicated to fix and keep running without a huge support team behind them.Another idea as far as a drive train swap could be a 12 or 24v 6bt cummins with a ford zf-6 transmission. It's plenty strong for a deuce and has a .72 overdrive. Shouldn't be super hard to locate one since they were available in ford superduties for over 10 years.
This sounds like a very good plan !The ZF is a good transmission, little high on the pricetag but does give a better overdrive.
Going to see how the DT466 likes the .78 overdrive of the spicer 6453 first at 55-60mph. At 60 that puts me at 2300rpm, 55 at 2100. Highway speeds here in Utah are a little bit slower than in Texas, only being passed at 70mph compared to being passed by 18 wheelers at 80-90mph.
DT466 engine, Spicer 6453 trans, 5 ton intake, and hydraulic assist power steering through an HF54 box coming up soon! After that it's brake upgrade time.
I get 80 mph, but 90 mph is just plain a scary speed.Going to see how the DT466 likes the .78 overdrive of the spicer 6453 first at 55-60mph. At 60 that puts me at 2300rpm, 55 at 2100. Highway speeds here in Utah are a little bit slower than in Texas, only being passed at 70mph compared to being passed by 18 wheelers at 80-90mph.
Getting some good work done there, red.
That is a great transmission, especially for a "Semi-Truck" !! For our little Deuce, yes it is overkill ! but if it fits and works OK then go for it. The only problem is if you have to do any repairs on that transmission. It will cost you a small fortune to repair. I know as I used to repair those transmissions. On a normal 5 speed transmission I was expected to rebuild 2 a day. Complete teardown, cleaning and rebuild. On any "roadranger" 13 to 18 speed units it took 3 days !Might have found a trans for cheap as well. Eaton/Fuller RTLO-16918B. Overkill being that it's rated for over 1,600 ft/lbs of torque continuous 18 speed with a .73:1 final overdrive. 32" long, and a cheap price tag.
Also found a rtoof-9513 for the same price, but it needs new syncros. 13 speed rated for 950ft/lbs and .62:1 final overdrive.
The 18 speed will put me at 1900rpm at 55, and around 2100rpm at 60mph with the 395's. The 18 speed is 750 pounds according to the manufacturer. So the 300ish pounds I'm saving with the engine swap is basically being pushed back to the trans. I'll also have to figure out the air lines for the splitters. The DT466 has a SAE#2 adapter on it so that makes transmission mounting and clutches easy.
Been waiting on shipping to pick up the engine so I've been looking at transmissions now haha.
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