...Track on a trailer...

[L999here]

...OK...!!!

That's exactly what info I wanted...

Regulater...chock blocks are an excellant idea and I'll get at least (4) of 'em made out of oak...about 1' wide and maybe 18" long...should work...

Dittle...yep...ramps are a b...h to move around by hand ..but so are the toe-plates for the rear set of tandems when loading the track. Going to put an 'eye' hook in the center point of the ramps and conveyer rollers at two points in the middle to make it easier to move the ramps around.


Neiowa...Great diagram of the tie-down points on the M172A1 trailer. Made a print and will get at least (4) more binders and some chain.

On the chain,what is considered 'transport' type,how heavy and where can it be obtained...?

Don't stop yet,guys....I need all the info I can get....LOL....

 

[NDT]

Use the tie down shackles at the rear of the trailer. Running the chains under the frame like that does not look right. Also, no transport chain is ever galvanized! The 3/8 transport chain can be obtained from truck supply houses, Grainger, et al.

 

[jasonjc]

Transport chain is grade 70. Look on line for the best deal.

 

[Nonotagain]

Useful tidbits about chain.

1. Grade 30Ideal for applications that don't require the greater strengths of Grade 70 and Grade 40/43.
2. Grade 40/43Also known as high-test chain, binding chain, and System 4 chain, is approximately 50% stronger than Grade 30. Use for load binding, tie downs, and towing.
3. Grade 50Resists rust, diluted acidic solutions, salt water, and pitting, including pitting caused by phosphoric and most acetic solutions.
4. Grade 63Withstands higher temperatures than any other alloy steel chain.
5. Grade 70Also known as transport chain and System 7 chain, is approximately 20% stronger than Grade 40/43 and about 60% stronger than Grade 30. Ideal for load binding, towing, and logging jobs.
6. Grade 80The most common chain for lifting.
7. Grade 100Is approximately 25% stronger than Grade 80.
8. Grade 120
   The strongest chain we offered by Mc Master. Is approximately 20% stronger than Grade 100 and about 50% stronger than Grade 80. Has the highest strength-to-weight ratio, which allows you to use a smaller chain size for your application and reduces the weight of your lifting assembly.

 

[maynard83]

I was going to state exactly that on the tie down on the front. You need to have independent, opposing tie downs on each point, not one long chain threaded through both of them.

 

[asgtoolman]

That's what I like about this site; in 8 hours you can get 25 MEANINGFUL responses--What a wealth of knowledge at our disposal!!

 

[fasttruck]

Also consider using 4ea screw neck or rachet chain binders in lieu of the over the center kind in hte photos. You can never get 4 binders evenly adjusted otherwise. Use chains with grab hooks on each end. If the chain is too long trap the excess between the hooks on the chain binder and secure so it does not fall on the ground or get wrapped around a moving wheel. Too many people loop the excess chain all overt the place and the more corners it encounters the harder it is to keep it tiight. DOT requires chains be checked periodically during a trip for looseness. chain shpould form a 45 degree angle from the anchor point to the deck. the degree of this angle affects the strength of the rigging. rear chains can go either to the d rin gs on the end of the trailer or be wrapped around the bolster between the rear tandem. Army publishes transportability guide manuals for most major end items that illustrate the recommended tie down proceedure for various authorized trailers and provide a bill of materilals for authorized tie downs aand checking. do not recommnend crossing chains over each other unless a chaffing pad is provided or DOT will get you for that.
Old fire hose cut doiwn makes goog chaffing pads. trailer is 114 inches wide which is an imediate overwidth permit. need 4ea red flags and 2 ea oversize load signs and probably a flashing yellow light. APC is 101 "wide so if shipped on a 96" wide trailer is not a permit move. used to move 2ea m113 on a M872 34 ton trailer with either a M818 or M915 for power.

 

[fasttruck]

Also vehicle in picture appears not to be an M113. Foreign ? Different track, lights too low for M113, M113 does not have upper idler wheels shown in photos.

 

[B3.3T]

As stated, its a British FV432. Which BTW is over width by just 2 inches at the tracks. Might want to be careful where you go as some bug-eyed trooper could really give you grief.

 

[Blood_of_Tyrants]

You all are missing the point. It would be far easier to fill a few fuel containers and then bring them to the APC.

 

[USAFSS-ColdWarrior]

You all are missing the point. It would be far easier to fill a few fuel containers and then bring them to the APC.

Oh ye Bloody Tyrant

While your suggestion has much merit if you're looking for the "shortest distance between two points", I disagree. There are many other factors to consider here.....

1. This is a chance to play with LOTS of BIG MV toys;

2. The "Ego Factor"... Getting to drag a RARE MV to the local Fillin' Station for BRAGGING RIGHTS;

3. There was nuttin' else to do on a HOT Summer day;

4. Momma said, "If you don't move that thing soon it'll kill my lawn!";

5. My Jerry Cans are all fulla MOONSHINE and the APC ain't got no Multi-Fuel Engine in 'er"

6. All the guys (& gals) on Steel Soldiers would laugh if I posted a thead about taking my Jerry Cans to the 7-11 for some fuel... This thread is getting a lot more attention that THAT would have gotten;

7. And the list goes on.........

 

[peecook]

what an awesome problem to have..

 

[jbingvtx]

what an awesome problem to have..

I agree...I wish I needed to learn how to tie down my APC.

 

[Albin]

That's exactly what info I wanted...

Regulater...chock blocks are an excellant idea and I'll get at least (4) of 'em made out of oak...about 1' wide and maybe 18" long...should work...

Dittle...yep...ramps are a b...h to move around by hand ..but so are the toe-plates for the rear set of tandems when loading the track. Going to put an 'eye' hook in the center point of the ramps and conveyer rollers at two points in the middle to make it easier to move the ramps around.


Neiowa...Great diagram of the tie-down points on the M172A1 trailer. Made a print and will get at least (4) more binders and some chain.

On the chain,what is considered 'transport' type,how heavy and where can it be obtained...?

Don't stop yet,guys....I need all the info I can get....LOL....

Here's a place I like to go, good prices, good service and good info in the tech area:

Chain: Tow Chain

Load Binders: Load Binders

Good luck,

Al

 

[airmech3839]

what an awesome problem to have..

yes we all have tank envy!!

I wish I had that problem... how to travel.... with tank or without...hmmmmm

 

[L999here]

...he's right...

God bless you,Chaplin...you hit the nail right on the head...LOL. Yep....found out that filling/emptying jerry cans is a PITA. Much easier to...1) check out the trailer,tires,air system...2) GET THE TRACK OFF THE BACK LAWN....3) check out the under-carriage at eye level...4)repair/replace the torn up mud flaps...and 5) the 'cool factor' was off the chart as we drove past two malls and a Kroger food store (gas station at Kroger's) and took 45 min to fill the beast's two 95 gal. tanks. The only hose that would reach one tank had to be used, flow-thru pipe was only 1", so had to fill one tank and let it drain to fill the other...several times. Camera ph's and kids were everywhere...adults were open-mouthed,dogs howled,women screamed and children cried. Cost of gas:...over $225.00. "Cool factor"...priceless...

 

[USAFSS-ColdWarrior]

Yes, I had an intuitive "Force" telling me there was more to the story than met the eye.

My applause and SALUTE to you, Sir, for being an Ambassador for the MV Hobby

 

[M1075]

...dogs howled,women screamed and children cried...

 

[airmech3839]

Camera ph's and kids were everywhere...adults were open-mouthed,dogs howled,women screamed and children cried. Cost of gas:...over $225.00. "Cool factor"...priceless...

I bet!!

 

[L999here]

...lol...

Just could not resist the temptation. It's my fault...I confess. YES...I did it because people need to see we are out there....and I was too lazy to keep hauling gas cans trying to fill the track up. See....? Youse' guy's made me do it.....!!!....LOL. Thanks to all who have posted. The info was invaluable and will make for a safer travel with the track. Have already got the wood chocks and buying more and better (grade 70) chain and binders. Will drive it off the trailer Sun (weather permitting),mount the FA M2HB and go driving and shooting at the 500 yd. range on site....(125+ acres). Pics will be forthcoming. Any otherr FV432 guys need manuals...? Just got a few in and will post in the classifieds in the AM.....