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Is that standard state-by-state, or is it a national standard (D.O.T.), do you know?
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What did you do to your deuce this week?
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Going to DIS-agree with you on this one. Kentucky WILL let you register, as a FARM tag plated vehicle, a 5 ton like an M 813 UNDER the max tag weight of 38K. Stay under 26,001 and you are NOT subject to DOT regs. This per the County Clerk, who speaks as a state employee, needing to be fully aware of such things. Also, my not-so-friendly DOT representative. Also, NO mileage from home limitation on Farm plated vehicles anymore.
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Thats probably a farm thing, nothing to do with weight. No CDL required in Indiana for a farm vehicle regardless of weight.
****! I’ll be split shifting from now on!!!
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Reference post 9196: the CDL standard is a federal thing and is supposed to be nationwide to prevent the drivers from shopping around for the state with the easiest test. New Jersey, for instance, did not have a classified licensing system until the CDL appeared in 1992. The government also sets standards for equipment construction and weight standards on interstate highways. Now, in the name of highway safety the feds want to impose a requirement for 30 hours of supervised trailing to get an initial issue CDL. This is on top of electronic logging of time in service and ever increasing emissions standards. And the industry is crying about a drivers shortage now.
On the point of under registering a CMV to evade CDL requirements, this is not going to fly as the pinheads in DOT will claim you could load it over 26,000 pounds and the CDL will be required. "Farm"
vehicles apparently do not count as CMVs as do not fire trucks and recreational vehicles that as commercial vehicles would require a CDL.This is why you see trucks without air brakes rated at 25,900 pounds to evade the CDL requirement. Or people delivering radioactive isotopes to dentists offices in hatchback cars with placards as a CLD with hazmat endorsement is required regardless of weight if the vehicle is required to display a placard.
On the point of under registering a CMV to evade CDL requirements, this is not going to fly as the pinheads in DOT will claim you could load it over 26,000 pounds and the CDL will be required. "Farm"
vehicles apparently do not count as CMVs as do not fire trucks and recreational vehicles that as commercial vehicles would require a CDL.This is why you see trucks without air brakes rated at 25,900 pounds to evade the CDL requirement. Or people delivering radioactive isotopes to dentists offices in hatchback cars with placards as a CLD with hazmat endorsement is required regardless of weight if the vehicle is required to display a placard.
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Registration states "declared" GVW, and for personal use it is a NON DOT issue, as LONG AS YOU stay BELOW THE BREAK. Hit the "magic" weight, and feel the love of the DOT- DOT number, KYU, IFTA, logs, timeclock. No thanks. Played that game for over 19 years.
As poster 9201 is obviously a man of experience he would know that the feds in their infinite wisdom have defined a commercial vehicle (CV) as a property carrying vehicle RATED for over 26,000 pounds GV or GCW or a passenger carrying vehicle occupied by more than 16 people including the driver. Any 900 series MV would exceed this threshold at which point the CDL, IFTA, IRP, USDOT and a lengthy of other compliances kick in. Under registering your vehicle will not help as the rated weight or manufactured weight is the criterion. To escape this trap you have to get your vehicle registered as a recreational or farm use vehicle or whatever your state allows for "non commercial use." Otherwise you will come to understand why "DOT" is an acronym for "death on truckers." And of course this approach opens up another maze in determining if you can insure a m911 as a "non commercial vehicle." And if you "bob" a 5 ton and alter its weight naturally you will have no problem signing off to the feds that it now meets all applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards. Some people up in New York are having problems if a stretch limo they owned and was involved in a multi fatality accident was legally altered and if the alterations played a part in the accident. The same people who investigate airplane crashed are conducting this one.
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Back to Kentucky; No CDL required for Farm vehicles. Trucks over 26K lbs, an annual physical is required, Records of physical need to be available for LEO. I've got Farm tags on M813, M931A1, M925, and M936. County Sheriff asked if I was healthy when I had the wrecker inspected.
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Yep, a little bourbon keeps the doctor away.....
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I've heard about that, remarkable.
They say finish all the bourbon, then hold the empty bottle against the spot that hurts:
- Magically, the pain apparently goes away completely!
Amazing...
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-what pain? -now where is my glass? Back to trucks... my AF deuce will get Farm tags when I get it road worthy. Need to go through the brake system.
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I never thought I'd post to this thread again but here we go. I got this M35A2C in yesterday from auction and she's in good shape. Started with new batteries and everything works. 88' Airforce Deuce. I need to replace the tail lights are they are MIA.
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Air Force mean split system brakes!
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Sweet.....
Once again it is proven....
The GREEN IRON ADDICTION is strong in this one.
I'm jealous. Those Air Force brakes just make for such a safer Deuce.
(SIGH)
Carry on.
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sound like a nice rig so what other goodies does it have besides the brakes?
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You are correct!
You are so correct on all those points.
It looks like it but the forklift got the fuel tank and toolbox. I'll have to pull and replace those.
It had heater, hard top (obviously), parking brake upgrade w/ dash light, and it looks like they wired in a 7 way trailer plug on the rear. Unfortunately someone seemed to really want the tail lights so they removed them and cut the harness so I'll have to dig into that to see if it's worth running a new harness or repairing it. Still..an uncommon feature even on an AF deuce.
