JingoJohn
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I would take two sets AFTER they are PROVEN. Price is not everything. There is NOTHING worse than a critical component failure at a critical time.
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I did NOT say I wanted a "premium" price. I said PRICE (alone) is not everything. There is nothing more expensive than CRAPPY parts. Get stuck in the WAY-outback and see how much a tow costs for a 23,000 Lb vehicle.(IF you can get a tow.)The problem with a premium price is not many sets will be made and if parts are needed they will be very expensive, unavailable or impossible to find. If the price is decent and many are sold, they will continue making them, lots will be available and parts be plentiful. Would you still want to pay $1,500 for them knowing that if one is damaged you're on your own due to the limited production and lack of interest at that price?
Forward thinker.JT, how'bout 3-d printing some demo parts to sign up guys here on SS? They could see what their ESCROWED $$$ would be purchasing. Sell "Delivery positions"....I will take two.
The outer housing of the hubs wouldn't at all hold up if they were made from cast aluminum.JT, Try these guys in longmont, Colorado. They have done some very limited production for me.
http://www.westernfoundries.com/Products.html
If you need an alum foundry let me know. I also have a pal who is considered the "Guru of casting" and does work for some weirdo organization in Alamogordo, NM
Would you consider CNC 3 or 4 axis milling for the parts? For limited production it works out pretty well. Swiss screw machines can make some very complex parts. I also have a pal that runs a Swiss screw machine operation. His max OD is 1.75 in.
NOBODY said anything about the outer hub being cast al. If I recall correctly, the turn/switch gizmo on my AVM hubs for my '72 Scout was cast al. The reference was IF (BIG IF) the guy needs a good al foundry, I know a top notch foundryman.The outer housing of the hubs wouldn't at all hold up if they were made from cast aluminum.
You had mentioned about an aluminum casting company you knew of. I assumed you meant casting the outer section of cast. The dial could be cast from alum. Since it only has to slide the coupler down and doesn't really bear the load. But the outer housing of the warn style 5 ton hubs are cast iron. I know some of the smaller 4x4's I've had (Toyotas, Suzukis, exc.) used cast aluminum/alloy outer housings. But we're talking a very lightweight vehicle. I suppose given the right design/thickness of casting it could live. But I would only think in a M939 series I would try it. Since there's more "play" in the engagement of the front end of a older 5 ton sprag setup. That's purely my thoughts though, have no way of proving or disproving it.NOBODY said anything about the outer hub being cast al. If I recall correctly, the turn/switch gizmo on my AVM hubs for my '72 Scout was cast al. The reference was IF (BIG IF) the guy needs a good al foundry, I know a top notch foundryman.
BTW and FYI Zinc-Alum. (ZA) is extremely strong and most people would be surprised at how much highly stressed stuff is made with it.
I don't know much about 6x6's (yet) but I do know how to make stuff...just attempting to help the guy and indrectly, ALL of us.
Jingo
Rapid prototypes are neat. But if I fork over $1500, I'd like something a little more substantial than a paperweight. I'm not questioning anyone's character here. Just making an observation that I believe would be held by the entire group.patracy,
I am a fan of ZA castings but this is not a good place for them.
If I were doing this (glad I am not) I would probably start with D-2 bar stock. CNC in 3 or 4 axis. Then Austemper.
http://www.appliedprocess.com/process
I think the guy should have some "rapid protos" made from soft al or plastic, even starch based proto 3-D printing. The mob here is a hands on bunch that wants to see and touch before they buy. With pics of the fast protos he could start to sign up "Delivery Positions" on an "IF produced" basis. Again, I would take 2 delivery positions.
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