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Couldn't finish the box as i had forget to take the trailer wiring diagramm with me to the shop 
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Rebuilding after 15 years of storage
- Thread starter PHOENIX-GER
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ready....
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Well one thing had the next in line.... so we was one day at a point to decide just roadworthy or a complete job. We decide to go with the complete job.
That mean also we had on an oldtimer restoration some restriction.
We have the Sierra for more own styles and feature.
The only thing which i was in struggle was our rollbar and the own brushguard. In Germany you need a technical approval to become roadlicence. Today are these things not more allow but we got it in 1996. If the truck shown up in the annual technical control without them will they be erase from the roadlicence of this truck and of course will never got it back. Its a german issue of roadlicence. The truck is also with original turnlights in red. Today you have to add ugly additional turnlights if you want bring an american truck here for roadlicence. I have the original brushguard ready to mount and for an omdtimer meeting i can change them, like also take the front seats on the bed as the are not installed of the rollbar.
Otherwise the truck have also with original new headlamps a bad light that the additional lamps are an ease by nightrides.
Here you got an oldtimerstatus also if the truck is not complete original but equiped with things from that time. Mean you find a lot of Trucks which are lifted. A pure oldtimer lover will this not accept. Thats why our truck only got decent improvements which not destroy the military appearance and all is removeable to bring back pure original status.
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Yes some things are strange. The M1102 trailer will never got roadlicense with original lights. So i build a removable lightbar and civilian electric to use on german roads. We registered him first in germany. Found him in NL. To stay with the original towbar and the pintlehitch i had high costs to find a pintlehitch with german roadlicence. But i was sucessful. The original pintlehitch never got roadlicence here except someone spent the high costs for a technical test of safety. And for roaduse you must be able to arrest the full moveable original hitch which is here only allow offroad.
I have a complete detailed documentation as it will end with an oldtimer-appraisel for insurance and the value. Imagine an accident... the average value is less than the today status. Without such an appraisel i got only the average value.
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Just use a forum you like to go. I was first in the https://www.steelsoldiers.com/forums/cucv.47/
about the first thought increase power was we moved to this section
CUCV Hot Rodding and Modification
A forum to discuss modifications and major upgrades to the CUCV series.
www.steelsoldiers.com
Its dependend what you want build up. Here are more modification. In the other section are more repair of stockcondition.
If it not fit will the moderators move your thread to the propper section.
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The original pintle hitch had to go in storage as it have no roadlicence in Germany
the Nato pintle hitch fits into the bolt circle of the original Pintlehitch. I hope the TÜV is now satisfied and will later grant road approval
what absolutly not work for us is the universal shift linkeage bought for the 4l80e and not any other transmission... but we also not expected that i will fit.
Usually universal mean that special constellation will not really fit with it.
We have to build our own system... now of a puzzle of parts
I dont know how 1Love could mount this on a 4l80e in a Chevy M1008 without any customizing
Maybe he choose a better kit
it cant fit as the linkeage is straight and not with an ankle like belowe. There is not enough space to move for the lever without the ankle
we have already build yesterday a new lever with that ankle
These lever shown above belongs usually to other transmission than the 4l80e and other Trucks/Cars like Ford...
But this alone is not enough. The roundsteal have also to be bended to reach to the connection on the steering column
the Nato pintle hitch fits into the bolt circle of the original Pintlehitch. I hope the TÜV is now satisfied and will later grant road approval
what absolutly not work for us is the universal shift linkeage bought for the 4l80e and not any other transmission... but we also not expected that i will fit.
Usually universal mean that special constellation will not really fit with it.
We have to build our own system... now of a puzzle of parts
I dont know how 1Love could mount this on a 4l80e in a Chevy M1008 without any customizing
Maybe he choose a better kit
it cant fit as the linkeage is straight and not with an ankle like belowe. There is not enough space to move for the lever without the ankle
we have already build yesterday a new lever with that ankle
These lever shown above belongs usually to other transmission than the 4l80e and other Trucks/Cars like Ford...
But this alone is not enough. The roundsteal have also to be bended to reach to the connection on the steering column
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You mean the markings? There is a TM which unfortunately not covers all. I searched on internet and guyfang helped me to choose a real existing marking of that time.
I can give you my results.
You can buy templates in the correct size and font but it is expensive. You can also make your own template if you have the right font
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We realized that we still have 3 sensor wires to bring into the cab for Dacota when we went through the engine compartment wiring.
That's what happens when you take a break for several months while working.... We thought we were done with the cab wiring.
We start again when we dismantle the entire halter in which Dacota was mounted under the dashboard.
It's too tight to get three more wires in... and you need access to it later.
The idea of putting it behind the dash was to stay with the glove box.
Now we've sacrificed the glove box and put everything on a new halter behind the glove box door.
As we have to adapt the plastic box of the glove door, I need a replacement beforehand. You already know that no original part will be destroyed.
In Germany, you can buy a used box in moderate condition from the three major US truck military dealers here in Germany for 150 euros plus 10 euros shipping.
In the USA there is a replacement plastic box for 32 dollars. So, as always, we will import it.
Example here: https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Holley-05-178-Glove-Box-73-87-Chevy-C-K-Truck-No-A-C,488273.html
Our box is almost like new - no wonder we've owned the truck for almost 30 years and the glove compartment has never actually been used...
for a first test about needed space on wood-plate
all mounting points without cracks - seems to be rare, as all used i had seen have worn out and cracks
it will take again several hours to rebuild the halter for all that devices again. However it have to be done
We noticed also we had a broken original water sensor for the glowplugmodule and have to replace as you cant got anymore a sensor with this old connection
we will use something like that (this is from a Dacota Sensor), with the number 10045847 will you have a result for replacement part
The customized Lever for the Transmission shifter is ready and also painted now
We have our american vehicles collection enlarged with an used "little" Johnny to bring up the pasture of our horses healthy after they was on there. Who have horses know they eat selective and they let a lot of untouched.
We was tired to use always the bad maintened machines of our farmer where we rent the pasture and stable.
In our own equipement was this the last what we need for our demands.
That's what happens when you take a break for several months while working.... We thought we were done with the cab wiring.
We start again when we dismantle the entire halter in which Dacota was mounted under the dashboard.
It's too tight to get three more wires in... and you need access to it later.
The idea of putting it behind the dash was to stay with the glove box.
Now we've sacrificed the glove box and put everything on a new halter behind the glove box door.
As we have to adapt the plastic box of the glove door, I need a replacement beforehand. You already know that no original part will be destroyed.
In Germany, you can buy a used box in moderate condition from the three major US truck military dealers here in Germany for 150 euros plus 10 euros shipping.
In the USA there is a replacement plastic box for 32 dollars. So, as always, we will import it.
Example here: https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Holley-05-178-Glove-Box-73-87-Chevy-C-K-Truck-No-A-C,488273.html
Our box is almost like new - no wonder we've owned the truck for almost 30 years and the glove compartment has never actually been used...
for a first test about needed space on wood-plate
all mounting points without cracks - seems to be rare, as all used i had seen have worn out and cracks
it will take again several hours to rebuild the halter for all that devices again. However it have to be done
We noticed also we had a broken original water sensor for the glowplugmodule and have to replace as you cant got anymore a sensor with this old connection
we will use something like that (this is from a Dacota Sensor), with the number 10045847 will you have a result for replacement part
The customized Lever for the Transmission shifter is ready and also painted now
We have our american vehicles collection enlarged with an used "little" Johnny to bring up the pasture of our horses healthy after they was on there. Who have horses know they eat selective and they let a lot of untouched.
We was tired to use always the bad maintened machines of our farmer where we rent the pasture and stable.
In our own equipement was this the last what we need for our demands.
Sorry, I should have stated my current model is M1009. So indeed this will work if you are using the stock tranny or a 4L80E as my setup is using a 4L80E.
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I have seen it in your build-thread.
I knew before that no universalkit exists for the 4l80e, 6.2 Diesel and Np205. Thats why we gone with the cableshifting unit on the Np205 which work perfect. Unfortunately was the decision for the Lokar cableshifting unit to steering column a bad choise. A friend with the same combination had a customized original shifting TH400 unit installed which work well. We dont wont destroy the original shifting unit. Used are none on the market. Now we go the same way with the universal shifting unit.
I honestly thought the stock setup would work with the 4L80E but that wasn't the case haha. The 4L805E is a wee bit longer.
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Yes i know this before and you see in our rebuild what you need to customize if you go this route.
It is not a cheap, easy and fast solution. We will know if it is worth the money and effort when the truck is back on the road again.
No, I mean on towing hook
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What do you want to know? Where to find an original pintle hook?
I think about international auctions. The original have for us no use as it will never got here roadlicence. Maybe it is different in your country.
You can also use a Dixon/Bates pintlehitch like we now purchase with Roadlicence certification for Germany. It is cheaper if you dont need a certification for roadlicence.
The civilian one for the M1008 with 3,5 to was bought 30 years ago. The vendor have changed the business from CUCV to ATVs.
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Well how should it go on easy...
Of course the main wiring from dacota device to the dacota instrument cluster is just about 10 cm to short - its 3 ft. long
Fortunately there is a 6ft replacement cable by Dacota Digital avialable
Of course the main wiring from dacota device to the dacota instrument cluster is just about 10 cm to short
- its 3 ft. longFortunately there is a 6ft replacement cable by Dacota Digital avialable
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Glove Box is filled up with devices and a new plastic aftermarket glove box is on the way to us
engine wiring is almost done
Still looking for the best place for the oiltemperatursensor.
It exists different solutions. We want the best one
Unfortanetly we didnt think about that before rebuild the engine.
There is a plug in the block where you can access for a temp sensor.
Opening a plug which sits since more than 40 years should be done during a rebuild process.
Now after rebuild and installation is this option for us gone.
We tried to open but failed.
The next solution is about an Y Adapter between the block and the oilcooler inlet line
the transmission oilcooler found also his place
we followed the recommondation from Gearstar for a fitting oilcooler
now we need to order fittings and 2x 90 inch line
engine wiring is almost done
Still looking for the best place for the oiltemperatursensor.
It exists different solutions. We want the best one
Unfortanetly we didnt think about that before rebuild the engine.
There is a plug in the block where you can access for a temp sensor.
Opening a plug which sits since more than 40 years should be done during a rebuild process.
Now after rebuild and installation is this option for us gone.
We tried to open but failed.
The next solution is about an Y Adapter between the block and the oilcooler inlet line
the transmission oilcooler found also his place
we followed the recommondation from Gearstar for a fitting oilcooler
now we need to order fittings and 2x 90 inch line